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  1. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    I can’t disagree. No one actually *needs* thrusters. The P6 principal applies (proper planning prevents piss poor performance). Proper fender placement on both sides of the hull, prepositioning dock lines, sufficient close quarter boat handling skills/practice, etc. matter and a thruster is no...
  2. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    Great idea - I was recently thinking about repurposing the tiny folding anchor we have for our RIB for this purpose. I truly hate bull rails unless I’m upwind of them and even then unless they are pipe, you have to contend with slivers.
  3. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    I the PAC NW things are spendy. Plus BL4788 requires removing a water tank witch requires disassembly of the vberth etc. when I last investigated a bow thruster for a 4788 it cost more than a hydronic heating system for the whole boat.
  4. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    Thanks Cdave. I think the mods could close the thread. I’ve got what I need. Using twins I can kick either the bow or the stern to either port or starboard. Basic boat handling. What I can’t do sometimes is push both ends in the desired direction at the same time. A thruster will make...
  5. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    Although pride cometh before the fall, I have, over the years, developed pretty good skills at close quarters boat handling. I logged 400-600 hours on Lake Michigan and over 2000 hours in the PAC NW - all “naked” except for our 44 Tolly (about 14 months in 20117-18) that had both. Not...
  6. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    Mea culpa - in my original post I forgot to be specific about having twin engines. With twins I and “spin” the boat in a fairly tight radius. Using the twins I can effectively push the bow any way I want but the stern will of course go in the other direction which in my proposed use case would...
  7. Beaverlake

    So... Roman Shades

    We have Roman “whatever” our 4788. Much better than the crappy rusted metal mini blinds. However If I had the funds, or a different boat I’d do wood Venetian blinds. With Romans it’s all or nothing. With blinds you can adjust from full open (blinds raised) to full closed (down and tilted). The...
  8. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    Long ago in a land far away I could “side walk” my single engine 26 Pacemaker into the dock. Same for our 26 Tolly. Our Bayliner 3988 had twins but almost no forefoot (can you say weathervane boys and girls?) but I managed by learning how to use “power”. Our Tolly 44 had both both bow and...
  9. Beaverlake

    Tolly 44- room for onboard laundry?

    And if you purchase a vented unit the drying performance improves a great deal. Search thru the Bayliner Owners Forum for more info - all 4588 and 4788 pilot houses came with unvented Splendide units and those who replaced them with vented units reported very good results. We’ve used our...
  10. Beaverlake

    Enforcement of NDZ Puget Sound

    Alaska SD - what politics? I’m a PAC NW cruiser and this is the most comprehensive and non-political writing I’ve seen published in any forum. Now I’m assuming certain bona fides etc. on the part of the poster, but what politics? I think the best that can be said is that enforcement...
  11. Beaverlake

    Bow Thruster vs Stern Thruster

    Bow thrusters are great but expensive. And not a replacement for basic docking skills. That said, has anyone considered the effectiveness of a bow thruster (only) vs a stern thruster (only)? Bow thrusters are wicked expensive to retrofit but stern thrusters not so much. What difference in...
  12. Beaverlake

    Looking for a buyers boat broker in WA

    We used Andrew Trueblood, owner of Ocean Trawler Yachts in Seattle. Purchased a boat he was representing, then worked with him as “our broker” when we decided to sell #1 and purchase what was then an unknown #2. He will work as a buyers broker - although I don’t know if that is a...
  13. Beaverlake

    Seattle Boat Show

    This year will mark my third year of seminar overload. So many experts, so many subjects, so little time. Looking at boats is fun but seminars like the one on LifeSling deployment have so much value. After enjoying the morning sunshine on Lake Union Monday I spent the afternoon in seminars...
  14. Beaverlake

    Interesting boats

    Pretty typical design approach to many new “trawlers” and other newer boats. Maybe some have fewer square counter corners . . . :)
  15. Beaverlake

    Throttle /gear controls. Single vs double?

    Just a quick side note about electronic controls. 1. Yes, delay is there and adjustable. However, years of muscle memory is not instantly adaptable. I had to re-learn control behavior to account for the “move-the-lever-then-wait-a-beat” phenomenon. Like when you read a book and the author...
  16. Beaverlake

    Need WA suggestions

    La Conner hasn’t been mentioned. Nor has Flounder Bay/Skyline. Without a budget number hard to make relevant recommendations.
  17. Beaverlake

    8D vs Type31

    When we purchased our 4788 (2 x Cummins 6bta) we knew the two 8D starters needed replacement. We also replaced the ancient charger with a new smart charger. These engines have airflow pre-heaters. We replaced the 8D FLAs with Grp 31 AGMs plus a third for the generator. We went thru our first...
  18. Beaverlake

    Owner's phone number displayed on boat

    Not every marina has 24 hour staff or even full time dock staff during the day. At least not in the PAC NW. For instance, our marina is about 300 condominium slips. There is a dock master - but that’s it. There are a number of similar marinas up here as well. Although Everett has one of the...
  19. Beaverlake

    What do you look for in a yacht club

    1. Club focus (clubby, events, cruising, power, sail, etc) 2. Club “personality” - will we “fit” 3. Dues 4. Reciprocals 5. Out stations In the late 1990s we belonged to Yarrow Bay Yacht Club here in the Seattle area. No clubhouse or marina, virtually no reciprocals, fat cash balance, monthly...
  20. Beaverlake

    Size....not that it matters....of boats of course.

    47 and 54 tip to tail, bowsprit to swim step.
  21. Beaverlake

    Owner's phone number displayed on boat

    I recently forgot to turn off our reverse cycle AC so the pump kept running and to some it could resemble a bilge pump running continuously. We have small printed and laminated placards in both pilothouse side windows with contact info. I got a call and an email alerting me to the “problem”...
  22. Beaverlake

    Combine house and start?

    IIRC Fisheries Supply is having a battery sale right now (late Jan 2020). Create a "commercial account" to save even more (that's what I've done). Dyno batteries aren't the lowest price, but they have a reputation for quality and they are made locally.
  23. Beaverlake

    Looking for a 55-60 Foot Trawler

    I think you might have missed post #15 about Gal’s $350k budget..... But if your boat is for sale for $350k or less please let me know! ;-)
  24. Beaverlake

    Yachtworld Advanced Search Function

    As does Yachtworld Australia.
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