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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric's description of the benefits from using a wider shank/fluke angle in soft mud is accurate. This wider angle, which is 45° on the Fortress, will put the flukes in a position where they will provide much greater resistance in a soft mud bottom. I have attached a simple image which might be...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric, points well made and I can't add anything further to them. You nailed it.** Marin, agreed. I think Rex hit the ball out of the park with that statement. Thank you! Regards, Brian Fortress Marine Anchors
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Marin, thank you for your kind words and stories about the performance our product. They are very much appreciated! Regards, Brian Fortress Marine Anchors
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    To all, Rex is making a reference to a thread that was recently pulled from Cruisers Forum, in which Craig Smith of Rocna made libelous comments against Jon Neeves, a boating author who wrote a story in Sailing Today about anchors, which included some favorable comments about the SARCA anchor...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    No. Those numbers are for only one anchor. Do they have any holding power numbers for EACH of their anchor models? *
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    1. Sure, but how deep?* Any anchor will bury to a certain depth under a load and then the design becomes more of a factor. Anchor design experts know this. 2. The difference between our FX-37 and FX-55 is 11 lbs. The difference in holding power in hard sand between the two is 4,000 lbs. A 60'...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Marin, rather than quote your message, I will try and address your points as you brought them up: - I did NOT state or imply that the roll bar design was bogus!* I simply gave the opinion of Robert Taylor, a long time anchor design expert for the US Navy. Bob stated right away that the huge...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    This test was not done by some renegade, overly enthusiastic sales rep, but by the Rocna designer himself. *Check the bottom as well. Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, the Rocna side of the beach looks like it is softer mud, vs. a harder side for the SARCA. This link should be good...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Well, at least we can say that manufacturers and manufacturers reps are consistent througout industry.* Airbus constantly whines about the claims we make for our aircraft and we constantly whine about the claims they make for theirs, and we both maintain that the other one is mis-representing...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric, This link should take you right to the video if you copy and paste it into your brower: or on Vimeo: **SARCA anchor tested Is there a better way to embed a video on this type of a forum? I think the idea of beach testing is to have an inexpensive and controlled method of conducting...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Conrad, Congratulations on your purchase and I hope that your new Rocna gives you many years of dependable service. I certainly hope that the quality and performance of the Chinese-made Rocna anchor is more honest than their marketing. Please have a look at the video below that was posted by...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Sailing Today had this to say about the concave fluke shape: A downside to scoop anchors with roll bars can be compression of the seabed into the scoop - if the anchor were to drag it can't be re-set without being cleaned. I have read in other forums where Rocna customers mentioned the pain it...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric, Excellent point! Manson has copies of most other anchor types. Brian * -- Edited by Brian-Fortress on Monday 7th of February 2011 07:11:48 AM
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Delfin, Tandem anchoring was a hot topic a few years ago. I discussed it then with a couple of well experienced anchoring gurus, our owner Don Hallerberg and ES "Mac" Maloney, longtime author of Chapman's, and they thought the main issue would be properly setting both anchors. They did not...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Peter, I am impressed by what is written on the FAQ page at the SARCA web site. http://www.anchorright.com.au/about-us/faq They acknowledge that there is no perfect anchor, which is quite obvious, but it is still refreshing coming from another anchor manufacturer. I am not sure waterboard...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    I read in a forum where Rex Francis, the inventor of the SARCA, has an entirely different spin on who knocked off who, but it was acknowledged on their web site that Bugel was the first. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter much. Apparently, no patent rights were infringed upon...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Man, you guys can bit a bit ornery! Back to the original subject of this thread, please see below a short YouTube video which shows an Australian brand called SARCA out-performing a Rocna and a Manson on a beach pull test. As you may have seen, Rocna promotes how much faster their anchor will...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric, Windline in CA has a nice product line of rollers for Danforth/Fortress type anchors as well: https://windline.com/index.php?act=viewmodels&cat=18 Regards, Brian Fortress Marine Anchors
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Or "Analysis Paralysis."* Kind of like a discussion about the "Perfect Woman."* Worthwhile, yes.....but would a consensus be ever reached?* Doubtful. Talk about the Greeks with "big rocks in a basket,"......well have a look at the first Fortress anchor (attachments below). Ain't she a beauty...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric, Yes, anchoring does seem to be as intricate as rocket science. So many variables can affect an anchor's performance, i.e. wind, bottom, scope....and we haven't even talked about design yet. We use precision-machining to sharpen our parts so that the anchor will bury faster and deeper in...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    C.Marin, Good points all, and thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed message. As a manufacturer of safety equipment, I think that it is important for us to be upfront and honest about the performance capabilities of our product, so here goes in short summary: - In sand, mud, or...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Maybe a better image of the test? *I added another page with the write up of the anchors.
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Eric, I recently discussed Rocna with Robert Taylor, formerly of the US Navy and one of the world's foremost experts on soil mechanics & anchor design. Bob holds degrees in civil and ocean engineering, and he has designed anchoring systems for the US Navy and offshore industries for over 40...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Before making an anchor selection, it might be a good idea to first consult the "Horizontal Loads Table" that is published by American Boat & Yacht Council (ABYC). This will give you a good idea of the holding power requirements of your boat. Here's a sampling of this table under point 1...
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    Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

    Delfin, This extensive anchor holding power test was done in your Oregon backyard, and a 44 lb Bruce was included along with comparable anchors: http://www.ussailing.org/safety/Anchor/anchor_study.htm#INDEX Regards, Brian Fortress Marine Anchors
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