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NUTIN FANCY TOO

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NUTIN FANCY TOO
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1969,42ft Grand Banks. Hull #125
I've got a rather large brass bell that came with my boat. Unfortunately, it was not mounted, and the bell holder was also not mounted.
Where do y'all put yours?
 
I have a nice large brass bell too. It was a gift from Dad. Never could find an appropriate place to mount it on my boat, so it sits on a shelf in my basement :-(
Have to rely on electronic apparatus, instead.
 
I've got a rather large brass bell that came with my boat. Unfortunately, it was not mounted, and the bell holder was also not mounted.
Where do y'all put yours?

Here is a picture
 

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Hang it outside the pilot house fwd bulkhead.
Your bell is far bigger than my bell. I have two wall hangers, one for inside and one for outside.
Dont have 2 hangers? A machine shop can fabricate a second wall hanger.
 
I have a brass bell mounted on the mast facing forward about 6ft off the flying bridge deck. If you squint you can see it in the picture. It doesn't get much use but it always let's us know when we're cruising beam-to!
 

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Do you have a door by the lower helm? If so, it is best mounted on the cowling above the door (and head height), probably in the area of your navigation light . If possible, mount it in a way that the nice bell lanyard that goes up under the side grab bar (assuming a GB 42 has them) such that when you pull down on the lanyard it pulls fore or aft on the bell clapper. In other words, the lanyard is threaded under the grab bar such that one of the stanchions makes it hangs down in front (preferable) or back of the door. If the length of lanyard above the hand rail is short, the weight of the clapper will keep it centered such that only really large waves on the beam will ring it. If your lanyard is too heavy, it will pull the clapper sideways and you won't get the full effect of the bell when you yank on it.

Now, all you have to do is open the door to ring the bell. Bell signals are the same as horn signals, but you can't find that info anymore. Bells were as good as horns back when all vessels were under sail. They don't have much of a chance against twin turbocharged diesels and a stereo. Still nice to hear them sometimes. We use ours when going astern in the marina (and using the horn would be obnoxious). But no way in a fog.
 
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Bells the same as horn signals? New to me.


What is a "prolonged bell?


or how does this work?


(g) A vessel at anchor shall at intervals of not more than one minute ring the bell rapidly for about 5 seconds. In a vessel of 100 meters or more in length the bell shall be sounded in the forepart of the vessel and immediately after the ringing of the bell the gong shall be sounded rapidly for about 5 seconds in the after part of the vessel. A vessel at anchor may in addition sound three blasts in succession, namely one short, one prolonged and one short blast, to give warning of her position and of the possibility of collision to an approaching vessel.



I believe bells are no longer required if 65.5 feet and under.
 
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My bell is mounted on my sundeck. It too was my dad's.
 
From Boat US:

"Boats at least 39.4 feet to less than 65.6 feet in length - Must carry a whistle and a bell. The whistle must be audible for 1/2 nautical mile. The mouth of the bell must be at least 7.87 inches in diameter."

Most "nautical decor" bells aren't going to meet the size requirement. They probably can't ring for 6 seconds as required for a prolonged bell. They just go "ding."
 
From Boat US:

"Boats at least 39.4 feet to less than 65.6 feet in length - Must carry a whistle and a bell. The whistle must be audible for 1/2 nautical mile. The mouth of the bell must be at least 7.87 inches in diameter."

This is an outdated statement of Rule 33. Please see the current CFR:

§ 83.33 Equipment for sound signals (Rule 33).
(a) A vessel of 12 meters or more in length shall be provided with a whistle, a vessel of 20 meters or more in length shall be provided with a bell in addition to a whistle, and a vessel of 100 meters or more in length shall, in addition, be provided with a gong, the tone and sound of which cannot be confused with that of the bell. The whistle, bell and gong shall comply with the specifications in Annex III to these Rules (33 CFR part 86). The bell or gong or both may be replaced by other equipment having the same respective sound characteristics, provided that manual sounding of the prescribed signals shall always be possible.
-- https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/33/83.33#
 
Thank you.... beat me to it....


The problem with education/training (our other thread) is exactly this.

Boating and the laws are just complicated and change often enough even diligent boaters can fall behind or be confused.


I believe this was back in 2012 or so.


But it shows that no matter who you talk to...old salt or not...best to "trust but verify" as a wise man one said.
 
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The 3 different sounds give an idea of just how big the critter you are about to T-bone is.... :D
 
I mounted ours on a teak outboard motor bracket attached the stanchion / rail on the bridge. It is a 5” bronze from US Bell in Maine. Their bells are of exceptional quality and resonate like fine crystal.
 

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Mine's just forward of the starboard pilothouse door. Easy to ring while steering (not that I do that often). It could use a bit of polishing. And no, I did not do the fancy ropework.


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Polish? What's that? Does it make the bell sound better? Louder? Longer? If If you want to polish, better it would be the connections on the VHF antenna.
 
Each spring I use Brasso to shine up the old bell. My granddad had it on his boat. I do it out of respect to him.
 
WTF does a bell do apart from make unessesary noise and start fights at bars?
Do you have to stuff a sock in it to shut it up?
It'd just clang continually surely?
 
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Bell & polish
 

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