EPA Mandated Fuel Cans

[Lepke]

The EPA has created a whole new industry, by accident. Their almost useless fuel can design now has about 20 makers of replacement nozzles and add on vents. One of the rare positive results of the EPA. Unintended consequences.
Now instead of buying the old style can we have to buy two items to get the same result. I went to Amazon looking for one and found about 20 different styles. The local farm store usually has them but they were out.

 

[john61ct]

You can buy "NATO style" steel ones online. Most are cr^p quality Chinese, so don't go cheap if you want mil spec.

Yes the nozzle is separate.

 

[Seevee]

I still have some 15 5 gal cans of the older style. The only one that is "EPA" certified I had to drill out the center of the nozzle to get it to work!

Half of them have no nozzle and I use aluminum foil for a cap. Works fine.

 

[Bruce B]

Most of the EPA compliant cans are awful. I hate them!
While buying a replacement chain for our chain saw at a local lawn and garden store I found and purchased one of these No-Spill cans.
What an absolute joy to use! Easy, fast and environmentally friendly...
Who knew?
Bruce

 

[menzies]

Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!

 

[Maerin]

Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!

Ditto that! Only bureaucrats could take a relatively simple concept that's worked for years and mandate a change that creates the very problem they're attempting to correct. I believe the new jugs are universally despised. Awkward and messy!

Along the same line, my new remote outboard tank was fitted with a newly designed cap incorporating a tiny duckbill valve that will allow air into the tank, but won't allow any to escape. It created enough pressure in the tank and connected fuel line to open the float valve in the carburetor and flood the engine as well as push fuel out of the cowling. What a mess! What genius in design! I snipped off a corner of the duckbill: problem solved.

These must be the same crop of regulatory wonks who gave us low-flow toilets. Progress!!

 

[rwidman]

Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!

Same here. I bought some of the vents pictured above and adapted plastic hose for the spouts.

Fork the EPA!

 

[Codger2]

Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!

...and I thought that I was the only one who hated these new gas cans! (Whew!!!)

 

[FoxtrotCharlie]

Ha, just drilled out one this past weekend

 

[BandB]

Happy that I don't own any fuel cans so have zero problem. Ignorance is bliss as I didn't even know there was a problem.

 

[Retriever]

What Bruce said!

I've used the No-Spill brand gas cans for several years and really like them. Easier for me to fill the little dinghy gas tank than any other gas can I've used.

 

[Russell Clifton]

There are several video's on YouTube on how to modify your existing containers so they flow better. I haven't tried it yet but after spending over 10 minutes trying to pour 5 gallons of fuel, I'm ready to try.

 

[seasalt007]

USA Today reported today that the Barcelona terrorists had a hundred filled gas cans ready to use if need be.

I'll bet they were not the politically correct type.

 

[Al]

I cruise garage sales for the older type cans. Modify the ones that have no vent with a drilled hole stopped with a sheet metal screw.

Al-Ketchikan

 

[menzies]

USA Today reported today that the Barcelona terrorists had a hundred filled gas cans ready to use if need be.

I'll bet they were not the politically correct type.

They meant gas (e.g. propane) cans not petrol cans.

 

[rwidman]

I cruise garage sales for the older type cans. Modify the ones that have no vent with a drilled hole stopped with a sheet metal screw.

Al-Ketchikan

The snap in vents in the first photo work fine.

 

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

I have used this all summer long to fuel my dink from gas cans. Works awesome!!!

 

[Nomad Willy]

I looked up the Terrapump.
It's available from West Marine.

Wonder how long the batts last?
3gpm is'nt half bad.

 

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

Used the same batteries all summer long. You carry extra batteries...

 

[Group9]

Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!

Me, too.

 

[psneeld]

Best solution I have found.

Empties a 5 gal can between a minute or two if you get the 1 inch variety.

 

[rjwilliams11741]

Best solution I have found.

Empties a 5 gal can between a minute or two if you get the 1 inch variety.

Totally agree. We use these to transfer fuel from 10 gallon Gerry cans to built in tanks on our chase and markset boats for regattas. Liked it so well that I purchased one for myself.

 

[psneeld]

Totally agree. We use these to transfer fuel from 10 gallon Gerry cans to built in tanks on our chase and markset boats for regattas. Liked it so well that I purchased one for myself.

If the plastic hose gets hard in a year, a length of that cheap, ultra flexible, plastic bilge hose works like a champ....other than the ribs hold a bit more fuel for longer, especially diesel.

 

[john61ct]

​https://www.google.com/search?&q=super+OR+jiggler+siphon+1-inch+fuel

 

[CaptTom]

I've retrofitted a bunch of the new sure-spill type gas cans with the spout and vent in the OP. Very satisfied customer. There's one with a long, two-piece, large-diameter spout that works great for getting diesel into the deck fills without spilling a drop.

Did you also notice they quietly did away with 6-gallon portable cans? In most states you can only buy 5-gal cans now. I can't help but wonder what they think we're going to do with that extra gallon.

 

[psneeld]

Its probably that most of the population cant carry a 6 gallon can anymore....

 

[Drake]

Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!

Exactly!!! This is one of my pet peeves. When I was a kid, we had several gas cans for our two stroke outboard. They were cheap, simpe, easy to use and we never spilled a drop. Now, the only cans I can find take an engineer to use, get gasoline all over my hands, make me contort myself trying to make them work, spill all over the place, and use up half a roll of paper towels to clean up.

And, by the way, I have to pay for all that engineering.

Our government at work. Thanks a lot.

Paul

 

[catalinajack]

What Bruce said!

I've used the No-Spill brand gas cans for several years and really like them. Easier for me to fill the little dinghy gas tank than any other gas can I've used.

Still available are steel safety cans. Justrite is one brand. The springloaded closure prevents spills and is quite easy to pour from a flexible steel spout. Yes, they are more expensive but will last a lifetime. I keep a five gallon can aboard in a box on the flybridge. When I open the lid to the box I have never detected even a slight whiff of gasoline odor.

 

[BandB]

Still available are steel safety cans. Justrite is one brand. The springloaded closure prevents spills and is quite easy to pour from a flexible steel spout. Yes, they are more expensive but will last a lifetime. I keep a five gallon can aboard in a box on the flybridge. When I open the lid to the box I have never detected even a slight whiff of gasoline odor.

A link to their page. They make excellent products. We don't use their gas cans but do use several of their other products.

Justrite Mfg : Safety Cans and Containers

 

[CPseudonym]

I use the same kit as the OP but have one of these handy for transferring fuel when my back and shoulders hurt.