Windlass setup rehab

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PMF1984

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During my issues with the wrong type chain, non-functional washdown pump, missing foot switch cover, and blown windlass fuse, I noticed a little rust on the windlass motor. Additionally, I have been unhappy for a while that the mahogany mounting plate was fastened by carriage bolts on the port side and hex heads on the starboard side. And the wood was looking worn. It had that unfinished teak look about it and I assumed that it was just that.

So since I had to change the chain out, I decided to replace the teak (turned out to be mahogany) with G-10. I'm using two 1/4 inch sheets. After I get the mounting holes for the G-10 cut, I will square up one of the sheets holes to take the carriage bolts, then epoxy them together.

So they question I have is related to mounting the G-10 plate on the boat. Goo or epoxy?

I was leaning towards a thickened epoxy but then thought about the prospect of removal should I ever need to switch out the windlass to one requiring a different base configuration. If I go with goo I was thinking something like 3M 4200. Something to fill any voids rather than a strong adhesive, as the 4 bolts is what really holds the thing down.

Photo 1 shows the condition of the mahogany base when I removed it discovered to be in two pieces), photo 2 is the rust (probably more under the "water proof" cover)

Thoughts?
 

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Epoxy is forever unless you cut and grind. I used 4200 to fix G10 plates drilled and tapped for hardware mounting in place. In theory it's removable, in practice it's perfect, with no leak potential with through bolting.

For your purpose I would use goo...
 
During my issues with the wrong type chain, non-functional washdown pump, missing foot switch cover, and blown windlass fuse, I noticed a little rust on the windlass motor. Additionally, I have been unhappy for a while that the mahogany mounting plate was fastened by carriage bolts on the port side and hex heads on the starboard side. And the wood was looking worn. It had that unfinished teak look about it and I assumed that it was just that.

So since I had to change the chain out, I decided to replace the teak (turned out to be mahogany) with G-10. I'm using two 1/4 inch sheets. After I get the mounting holes for the G-10 cut, I will square up one of the sheets holes to take the carriage bolts, then epoxy them together.

So they question I have is related to mounting the G-10 plate on the boat. Goo or epoxy?

I was leaning towards a thickened epoxy but then thought about the prospect of removal should I ever need to switch out the windlass to one requiring a different base configuration. If I go with goo I was thinking something like 3M 4200. Something to fill any voids rather than a strong adhesive, as the 4 bolts is what really holds the thing down.

Photo 1 shows the condition of the mahogany base when I removed it discovered to be in two pieces), photo 2 is the rust (probably more under the "water proof" cover)

Thoughts?

I'd use a polysulfide like Lifecaulk. Cures faster than polyurethane (Sikaflex, 4200, 5200), lot easier to apply and remove.

I personally never use Sikaflex, 4200 or 5200 for bedding equipment or anything that may be removed later. Only use it when you want a permanent attachment.
 
Just a suggestion. Take the motor to a rebuild shop and get the inside checked and cleaned up, new brushes if needed.
I did my original windlass years ago. The rust was extensive but I salvaged it with new brushes, a wee bit of welding, new bearings, a sandblast and painting.

The windlass was a horizontal and water had gotten into the housing and rusted the motor end badly.

It ran like a champ for about another 5 yrs afterwards untill I finally bought a new, larger unit.
It's out there somewhere else now.
 
Thanks for the thoughts. I actually have to work this week, so I won’t make the progress I want. Maybe get the motor to the sop for a check-up.
 
Thanks for the thoughts. I actually have to work this week, so I won’t make the progress I want. Maybe get the motor to the sop for a check-up.

I hate it when people use 4 letter words, work…
 

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