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Don L said:
It has to do with the Market Value, which is not the Agreed Value.
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I understand that, but is it your choice to buy back or are they saying here is the money and keep the boat. Cause it is not cheap disposing a boat.

If you net the agreed value and they take the boat away may be the best financial & emotional option.
 
I get the money and keep the boat. I plan to just sell it cheap. It is usable just as is
 
Don L said:
I think I will list it somewhere around $15-20k. The boat is fully useable right now as a fuel efficient power boat and is pretty comfortable. I bet I myself could do the fiberglass work in a week (probably couldn't match the gelcoat color good)
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I feel like I'm missing something. If you can get your agreed upon hull value from the insurance company, and the unrepaired boat, which you could list "as is" for $15-20K, why wouldn't you try that? I understand if the emotional toll outweighs trying to sell "as is", but seems to me if you ultimately took a low ball offer for $10k, that's still $10k. Hope I haven't misunderstood your potential options.
 
Don, you posted as I was obviously typing my agreement.
 
Sure does not sound like much hull damage. I know nothing about sail rigging costs so there is that. Can you post pictures of the damage?
 
DNT99611 said:
Can you post pictures of the damage?
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I guess, but unless someone is interested in the boat it seems meaningless. But what the heck
 

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That looks like a more reasonable repair than I was imagining. I don't know how quickly it'll sell, but if a rig can be obtained reasonably, I'd expect someone will want the boat.
 
Agree.
That looks minor to me, but would need to see what happend below in those locations.
 
Mac G said:
Agree.
That looks minor to me, but would need to see what happend below in those locations.
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The hard head liner below has a couple of cracks. Nothing structural and if it was my money I would just sand smooth and put some epoxy on it to seal. It takes contortion to seen so why even worry about it.

We hit the FV a glancing blow for about 3' of boat length and it is probably at the strongest point of the whole boat. There is a bulkhead down below right at where the crack it so that reinforced it that way. And topsides there is the 2" diameter SS aft arch bridge that is bolted to the deck and goes all the across to the other side.

Turns out our boat is freakin TOUGH!
 
Don L said:
The hard head liner below has a couple of cracks. Nothing structural and if it was my money I would just sand smooth and put some epoxy on it to seal. It takes contortion to seen so why even worry about it.

We hit the FV a glancing blow for about 3' of boat length and it is probably at the strongest point of the whole boat. There is a bulkhead down below right at where the crack it so that reinforced it that way. And topsides there is the 2" diameter SS aft arch bridge that is bolted to the deck and goes all the across to the other side.

Turns out our boat is freakin TOUGH!
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For all the crap people give them, I've always understood that era of Hunter to have far sturdier hulls than their reputation would have you expect.
 
Interesting. I bet they use chopper gun next to the gelcoat to avoid print through from the matting.
 
rslifkin said:
For all the crap people give them, I've always understood that era of Hunter to have far sturdier hulls than their reputation would have you expect.
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That is very true. A buddy of mine was a dealer in that era and he said that some models (Legend?) were well designed and well built. Much like Catalina. Some models are OK while others cross oceans.
 
mine is a 2001 design

the general construction method probably applies from 1995-2012 or so (at least till Marlow as I don't know if it changed)
 
Don L said:
mine is a 2001 design

the general construction method probably applies from 1995-2012 or so (at least till Marlow as I don't know if it changed)
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That's my understanding, all of the boats with an arch and B&R rig are built fairly similarly. Before that era, certain models were well liked (such as the Cherubini designs and the Legend models), but there were plenty of other boats in there that earned Hunter a not-great reputation.
 
So my my insurance check is in the mail. Now I need to get rid of the boat so will be listing and asking $20k. Insurance says the boat repaired is worth $107k. The boat can be used on ICW/Florida/Bahamas etc as is and is a great liveaboard boat and of course was setup for extended cruising.

Put out the word to the grapevine

text me if questions at six zero three-674-6681
 
Don L, good luck going forward!!!
 
Don L said:
So my my insurance check is in the mail. Now I need to get rid of the boat so will be listing and asking $20k. Insurance says the boat repaired is worth $107k. The boat can be used on ICW/Florida/Bahamas etc as is and is a great liveaboard boat and of course was setup for extended cruising.

Put out the word to the grapevine

text me if questions at six zero three-674-6681
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Only took me 4 days to sell the boat. Between the insurance payout, a couple of things sold separately, and the boat sale itself I got what I had expected earlier in the year for the boat.

So about 2 months from an at sea collision to being out of boating. Probably faster than I could have listed and sold the boat before collision. But I don't recommend the route.
 
Don L said:
Only took me 4 days to sell the boat. Between the insurance payout, a couple of things sold separately, and the boat sale itself I got what I had expected earlier in the year for the boat.

So about 2 months from an at sea collision to being out of boating. Probably faster than I could have listed and sold the boat before collision. But I don't recommend the route.
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Nice to learn that you have had a positive outcome after a frightening incident.

Best of luck with whatever you decide for your next adventure.
 
guy with a boat said:
Nice to learn that you have had a positive outcome after a frightening incident.

Best of luck with whatever you decide for your next adventure.
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It does look like all's well that ends well, and they have a hell of a story to boot. Now I have to go back and read all 350 post to get the complete story myself lol.
 
Hell of a way to get out of boating
Kinda like using the cancer diet to lose weight. Been there.
 
Lessons learned from this thread:
1. Always have a fixed VHF turned on, paired with a good antenna. Always have a backup handheld waterproof VHF easily at-hand and fully charged.
2. Buy a decent AIS transceiver and have it on whenever underway.
3. Sailboats are hard to see at night and in fog. Sailboats make lousy radar targets and their running lights are low. You need to monitor your AIS and contact any boat that could potentially collide (make sure your AIS alarms are set up).
4. Assume every other captain on the water is an idiot. In ten years of Puget Sound boating I had to dramatically change course three or four times when an approaching yacht on auto-pilot was on a collision course with me, didn’t respond to multiple VHF calls and had no captain at the helm when we passed.
 
you missed

don't assume other boats have anyone on watch or have their lights on at night

We have had lot of time now to go over this collision and we are convinced they didn't have anyone on watch (at least one smart enough to start a turn) or their lights on.
 
Wondering about any follow up? Am I correct that an insurance claim was made? If so how did it go? Was any reconstruction of events using AIS or other evidence made?
 
Hippocampus said:
Wondering about any follow up? Am I correct that an insurance claim was made? If so how did it go? Was any reconstruction of events using AIS or other evidence made?
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Insurance paid the agreed value $59,950. I sold a few items off the the boat for $3700 and then sold boat for as is for $17000. So I got about $80,400 for a boat the insurance said was worth $115,000 once repaired and I didn't have to mess around and it was all done in 2.5 months

Since no was was injured CG wasn't interested in anything other than filing the reports.
 
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