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Whew! Ok. Message received. I need to clarify though. The new vessels in question have a delivery estimate of July 2023 Till about January 2024. Cruising plans start circa June 2024. August '23 is a little early for my availability, but leaves leeway for delays and I can dedicate nearly full...

OPTIMIZE for ocean crossing is a little over the top. Maybe get a submarine in that case? Sure Dashew/FPB/AL LRC would be more optimized for ocean crossing than N or K, etc, but that becomes more sacrifice to usability and comfort than I will make. Pushing the optimization envelope is generally...

There are many boats in in the 50-65' LOA range that can fit under 19'1". sometimes you have to get a little creative with the mast/radar arch/hard top, but I personally know folks who have done it up to 65' - AND I don't feel its limiting my choices. As I originally wrote - my adventure won't...

Wow. Just Wow. I met with Jeff prior to that article and he did not mention those issues. So glad I did not go down that path. Again, one more reason to stick with a major and quality manufacturer.

Yep! I met with Jeff many years ago, shortly after he took delivery of his DD. I was very interested at that time. He was trying to be a salesman, of sorts, for Seahorse Marine, though not sure in any official capacity. He had many great things to say about his N55, and I think the DD was an...

Dennis really liked the N55, and later enamored of the N76 - though that became more boat than they needed. During the interview Dennis says he thinks the perfect boat was the N55. Why that over the KK58 he had for 13 years?

Those are new models and moulds. Think they would have build in the strakes if needed from the beginning. Perhaps a different hull form was used to accomodate without needing strakes?

Maybe. We need a naval architect, who is brand agnostic, to weigh on what has become a fairly technical sticking point.

Retriever - Since you own an N50, have you followed the evolution of hull design on the Nordhavn yachts? I am not aware of the exact changes, but N50 and N57 owners I have conversed with love, love, love their hulls' efficiency, speed and weather performance. Do the N50/57 have maintenance...

Interestingly, there are no maintenance strakes on the N41 or N51, and I believe the N71 as well.

Last year N proposed moving the N52 production to Taiwan. The owner of the yard, who owns both the Taiwan and China yards declined. The plan was that since the N51's had been put on hold, N offered to do a limited production run of N52s, built production style, with the same build-out as the...

Danderer - I have heard the KK hull form benefits mentioned/touted quite a bit. And my understanding of hull forms would agree - I started as a sailor. I have to wonder why Nordhavn flattens the hull as they head aft, and in more recent builds/designs add integrated swimsteps? Is it just to...

Fiddler VI looks so much larger than 55'.

Mac2 - Thanks. As far as structure - I am presuming that N and KK are building sufficient to the task. The N51 has added large windows in the hull (staterooms and head), replacing portholes, like some euro vessels - another item i need to discuss with them. While the glass is ~ 3/8", how to...

Oliver - thank you for your input. Very good point on the windows. KK says the boat would come with the fittings and plexiglass to protect the windows when needed. I will be in discussion with them regarding stability, resistance to wind and waves and such - knockdown will be brought up. Oddly...

Europe, and Canada too - I have looked. 10 weeks is only $20k. Hmm, that is pretty good, you are definitely onto something. I have that weird affliction where I feel the need to own my own boat. It is irrational and makes no sense fiscally, time wise, or by almost any other metric I can think...

I have heard of that, but cannot find that report. Others have refuted that claim - including KK. Can't argue with science, unless it is flawed science (poor testing). Perhaps at slow enough speeds the detriment is neglibible but builds as you push towards hull speed? If you could send me a...

Leeman - I had the same thoughts on the "office". Another member brought that up too, and I should have responded to them, but a very good idea to make that into a utility space. I already spoke to KK and they have walled that off then built out many options there. I was thinking a smaller...

MVFortitude is beautiful classic example! I hadn't looked at the 'classic' KKs. Reminds me of the Diesel Ducks that I was interested in for a while. Not many folks want the combination of sail rig + trawler = too much effort, but it pays dividends too. Do you use the sail rig much? Is it...

I have heard many good arguments for either boat. The KK52 is a proven design, much more space, additional features ( Portuguese bridge, wing stations, third room/office/whatever, better galley, central hallway/simpler layout, factory customization,and more). Many pluses to the KK52 over the...

Ok you win. I'll ignore all the other anecdotes regarding this, even those from people I know and trust personally. That Aside - underwater hull shape on the N52 is a detractor. I don't care to support the Chinese. Manufacturers should find alternate friendly countries. That is purely my...

Going by what I have witnessed, and anecdotes - not only by some boaters, but professional fisherman, tool manufacturers, and other parts suppliers - Chinese made products using Stainless Steel have more tarnishing issues. A friend is a sportfisher captain working a 90' charter, a professional...

I have read parts of Dirona Blog - very good stuff. Have looked at an N47 (which is similar to the N52) The N47 had rust on the stainless - everywhere - rails, stanchions, rub rail, lines of rust coming from stainless screws. Probably the owner poorly maintained the boat, but even then it was...

Looking forward to the adventure and mild challenge of crossings. All part of the package for me - though the clippers would be pretty sweet. May to add that to the bucket list.

Follow Up Info Thank you for all the responses. The 2 year time frame is my decision. I will retire in two years, so ordering a yacht is OK. Depending on the used market is less ideal as some folks spend 2 years trying to find the right boat. If I wanted a vessel right now, there are KK58 and...