Alaskan Sea-Duction
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WOW Who did you in the ICW group piss these folks off?
We were literally heading for Jekyll Island in a few days From JAX and were planning on anchoring. We were looking forward to exploring the GA area. Still worth it?
No, but the added hassle make it more problematic. It will encourage more people to bypass Georgia. Hopefully the local businesses will push back when they loose revenue. Boaters need to let the businesses when they pass by without stopping and spending money.
We were literally heading for Jekyll Island in a few days From JAX and were planning on anchoring. We were looking forward to exploring the GA area. Still worth it?
Honestly, do really expect people to randomly dial businesses in Georgia waterfront towns as they go past without stopping? Really? How many do YOU intend to dial?
I think business owners are capable of doing the math and seeing if receipts are off over the next year. If so, then they will call the people that really matter: their local state representative. If not, and I suspect that will be the case for 99.9% of them, then the rule will stand. Who has the loudest voice, the folks who initiated this or those who will maybe be affected financially (don’t forget that campaign contributions are speech)?
Georgia has gone and done it. The new anchoring regulations just came out. It's a bit hard to read what I just saw posted but they basically outlaw anchoring within 1000 feet of any man made structure fixed to the bottom or shore. Anchoring within 1000 feet of an approved and identified aquaculture or public oyster picking area will also be prohibited. This will eliminate many convenient anchoring areas at Cumberland Island both in the Brickhill river and at the south end.
Unexpectedly, anchoring is permitted in "Marina Areas" which are defined as being between 300 and 1000 feet of a marina even if there are other structures within 1000 feet. So much for the idea that marina owners were driving this law to force people to their docks.
Have you thoroughly explored from Jax up the St Johns and south to Canaveral?
While Ga has some sights....it can be pretty dang windy and cold in Jan/Feb.
If bent on doing it.... I would go....keep a pumput record/receipts....don't look too hard or ask about the permit/fees till ?????, look at that link I posted before about shellfish areas as the link has all of them in county maps and stay roughly 1000 feet from them.... and go have a good time.
Bring a coat though.....
Lot's of rocket launches down Canaveral way in Jan/Feb...and warmer days...
David although I am 9th generation Floridian I have lived in South GA for 30 years part time and you are right the areas mentioned will soon be filled with mooring ballsI suspect those areas will be ultimately filled with moorings installed by the marina.
Another very good reason to skip Georgia entirely and go outside.
The two anchorages I have used while transiting Georgia: off of Cumberland Island- where the park dock will block most anchorages, and another on the Duplin River where the ferry landing will block using that, one are no longer usable.
David
I haven't read the Georgia law but I'll bet part of the reason for it is to enable the state to remove abandoned vessels. I would like to see that part issued here in SC. How would you like to be the owner of a 10 million dollar property on the May river wake up to a burned out hulk of a shrimp boat abandoned 100 feet from your back door? It happens too often. The law would make a lot of sense if it excluded vessels in transit with a limit on how long they could stay. IMO there is a difference between being anchored and beeing moored.
I get what you are saying, and derelict vessels are an issue in many places, but waterfront property owners don't own the water.
I'm sorry that they aren't happy with their view, but tough cookies. Navigable waterways belong to the public, not to those wealthy enough to own property adjacent to them. We don't need to take away the rights of the majority to protect the sensibilities of a few. If they don't like the idea of a shrimp boat hulk in what they consider their backyard, then they shouldn't buy waterfront property.
So where is everyone’s favorite anchorage somewhere between Jacksonville and Jekyll?
I haven't read the Georgia law but I'll bet part of the reason for it is to enable the state to remove abandoned vessels. I would like to see that part issued here in SC. How would you like to be the owner of a 10 million dollar property on the May river wake up to a burned out hulk of a shrimp boat abandoned 100 feet from your back door? It happens too often. The law would make a lot of sense if it excluded vessels in transit with a limit on how long they could stay. IMO there is a difference between being anchored and being moored.
So are you saying anyone should be able to dump or abandon their crap anywhere in the waterways?
It seems you have more of an issue with who you think is complaining, versus what they are complaining about.
I get what you are saying, and derelict vessels are an issue in many places, but waterfront property owners don't own the water.
I'm sorry that they aren't happy with their view, but tough cookies. Navigable waterways belong to the public, not to those wealthy enough to own property adjacent to them. We don't need to take away the rights of the majority to protect the sensibilities of a few. If they don't like the idea of a shrimp boat hulk in what they consider their backyard, then they shouldn't buy waterfront property.
Never considered this. Didn't Florida try this and lost in Court?
I get what you are saying, and derelict vessels are an issue in many places, but waterfront property owners don't own the water.
I'm sorry that they aren't happy with their view, but tough cookies. Navigable waterways belong to the public, not to those wealthy enough to own property adjacent to them. We don't need to take away the rights of the majority to protect the sensibilities of a few. If they don't like the idea of a shrimp boat hulk in what they consider their backyard, then they shouldn't buy waterfront property.
So you would be OK with me dumping an old shrimp boat on the public road in front of your house??
So you would be OK with me dumping an old shrimp boat on the public road in front of your house??
There is a big difference between an old wooden shipwreck and a derelict 35’ fiberglass sloop or a rusty steel shrimper.....