Maerin
Guru
How does the state find out how many days a boater has been in the state,
Bridges. They log vessel name & hailing port. I suspect they can poll marina records as well, but the bridges are already part of the state bureaucracy.
How does the state find out how many days a boater has been in the state,
Bridges. They log vessel name & hailing port. I suspect they can poll marina records as well, but the bridges are already part of the state bureaucracy.
I don't think anyone who has been there will dispute that there are problems with derelict boats and livaboards who don't respect their neighbors or the environment in Florida.
The problem many people have is taking away good anchorages such that people legitimately engaged in "navigation" can't use them anymore. I don't care if you pass a law against anchoring, or just put out a bunch of overpriced moorings; you're still taking away a fundamental right to navigation, which in my book includes anchoring.
Florida has given the appearance of not wanting to deal with the real problem, instead just taking a swipe at the easiest targets - cruising boaters. One can only speculate as to whom those politicians are trying to appease.
I can't say if that's waterfront property owners or not. I can say that, in the areas I've seen of the Florida ICW, it's clear that the manatees have very good taste in real estate. The "Slow - Manatee Zone" signs are much more prevalent in areas of higher property values, than in areas where property appears much cheaper.
Just sayin'
90 days. No, not required to pay sales or use tax. And his astronomical registration fee for his 37' boat is $78.25
San Diego harbor has restricted anchorages where you must have a permit to anchor. The permit is easily obtained on-line and allows you to anchor for up to three days, and only on week-ends. Once you do apply for a permit, you are added to the Harbor Police data base. This method keeps track of would-be "homesteaders" who would otherwise never leave the anchorages. Yes, the anchorages are limited to the number of boats that can use the anchorage.
I've often thought one answer would involve a state anchoring registration or permit, perhaps $10, but just to have the record. In my view though, it should require proof of insurance.
WOW Talk about "Big Brother!!"
Life is simpler when one has USCG documentation while visiting states that do not also require state registration for extended stays. Surprisingly, California is one such state, at least for now. That doesn't mean one won't be subject to property tax.
If the boat is over 30 years old, the fee is $15 a year to register an “antique “ in Florida.
I've often wondered if the State could pass laws to acquire title to derelict boats after some (debatable) period of time, and (mostly?) fund towing/disposal efforts through assessed owner fees (if the owner can be found, and if the owner can pay), plus a partnership of sorts with a commercial salvor, a commercial parts house and a commercial (whole-boat) liquidator.
-Chris
Oh well, at least the scenery is beautiful!
Here on the Pacific coast of Canada, the things that gets me POed are the proliferation of "private mooring buoys", the derelict boats (both on buoys and anchored) that never move, and fish farms. So when you come into a good anchorage that used to be great, it is now so full of boats, empty buoys, or farming equipment, that it is very difficult to find a spot at a number of locations. As an added bonus, if a fish farm "moves on", you have to worry about getting your anchor fouled on all the "junk" left on the bottom. Don't get me wrong, there are still bays where you can find space, but the popular ones are getting more and more buoys and derelicts.
Oh well, at least the scenery is beautiful!
Come north of Cape Caution
Here on the Pacific coast of Canada, the things that gets me POed are the proliferation of "private mooring buoys", the derelict boats (both on buoys and anchored) that never move, and fish farms. So when you come into a good anchorage that used to be great, it is now so full of boats, empty buoys, or farming equipment, that it is very difficult to find a spot at a number of locations.
\So this subject came up in another thread. So I thought I would create a thread dealing with this.
In different parts of the country, municipalities and States have restricted where you can throw the hook. Places like Florida that have multi-million dollar homes on shore and have restricted anchorage as it interferes with the home owners view.
There is also the legal question if the above has the authority to restrict "navigable" or navigation of Federal waters. I have seen places like Sausalito CA restrict anchorages by placing mooring buoys in an area that was full of live aboard.
What have you experienced with restricted anchorages?
Actually, the owner had absolutely no problems with my trawler in his marina. He was intrigued by the project.That's not about a state or even a city. It's about a marina that doesn't want a huge shrimp trawler being rehabbed in their marina. A marina owner has that right anywhere and I've seen it exercised nearly everywhere. Otherwise they'd lose regular customers. If you want to make the marina rules, then you'll have to buy a marina. Meanwhile most marinas will not allow an unsightly shrimp trawler to be rehabbed at their marina, especially those in a resort area. Had you leased yourself a slip and were you paying for it or just too freedom as dockmaster? Looks like the monthly rate there is just over $2000.
Sounds like the kind of place you'd fit right in.
I have not found this to be true at all here in my home state. It is too bad you did not travel further up the west coast. Boating is so much fun, and Florida is one of the nicest places to find a spot and throw out the anchor. Well, at least in the wintertime without the noseeums.The state of Florida is about as friendly as a pit viper in a bad mood if your "yacht" ain't worth a couple of million bucks.
I was dockmaster at a Marco Island Marina, but my "unsightly" trawler was chased out of the marina by the nose in the air Marco Island residents pressuring the marina owners.
Not intrigued enough, perhaps?Actually, the owner had absolutely no problems with my trawler in his marina. He was intrigued by the project.
This sounds rather stressful to me. I have learned that revenge-seeking is a very negative state of mind and can lead to a heightened sense of victimization.Having nowhere else to put her, I dropped a pick right next to the bridge that connects the island to the mainland. Talk about pissed off a$$holes!