menzies
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Yep! My motto is when I feel bad about myself then I try to push others down to raise myself up. This could explain my lack of friends but...that's another thread.
Dang, my shot was at the OP, and I missed!
Yep! My motto is when I feel bad about myself then I try to push others down to raise myself up. This could explain my lack of friends but...that's another thread.
Our last Dinghy was a Caribe 12 with a 40 Yamaha, and it hauled a$#. Definitely stern heavy. Sold it awhile back.
Good feedback on the engine. I was also wondering about the Carb vs. injection aspects.
Dang, my shot was at the OP, and I missed!
Menzies, a predictable response based on reading a few of your posts over the years. There is an old saying about getting in a squirmish with a pig. Have you heard that one?
First Base, actually, I prefer to let others on here feel superior about themselves. I avoid the drama, and enjoy talking about boating.
Ski, please see attached link:
Yacht Tender 11.5 - Bullfrog Boats
Ski, please see attached link:
Yacht Tender 11.5 - Bullfrog Boats
I did a little sniffing on the websites. At 25hp, the Yamaha is two cyl, off the list in my mind. At 30hp the Yam is 3 cyl, but 207lb, heavy!! The Honda is three cyl, but carbureted, off the list in my mind.
Suzuki, Merc and Tohatsu are all three cyl and EFI, weight about 160-175 for 25-30hp. Those look viable.
One thing to look at is transom height. I can't remember the specs but at 30hp some may only be available in 20" and the boat might need 15". But could be 20, check on that.
Some have both pull and electric start, some just electric. On a 30, I would want electric, but on a dink having a pull start is a nice backup. Probably a bitch to pull, but nice to have anyhow when batt goes flat.
On these rather heavy motors, power trim is super nice too.
Happy shopping!!
I had a ding in the fender of my car I think a shopping cart drifted into it. At any rate I took it to the body shop and they were able to remove the ding without having to repaint
Wow! Now I have a pretty good idea who's been blowing by us at the speed of heat while at anchor. We have a 6hp four-stroke Suzuki on a 10.6' RIB which is slow (stately?), but then, so is our big boat.
I bought a new Suzuki 15 HP for my inflatable in October. Extremely happy with it so far. It has electric start and fuel injection. Surprisingly, the fuel injection doesn't require a battery to be hooked to the motor. Installed the motor just before leaving for FL and haven't installed the battery and box for the electric start yet. Always starts on the second pull (think the first pull provides stored power for the injection system).
Ted
I was intrigued by the no battery for the fuel injection on the Suzuki until I saw this vlog from the Technomadia people!
I was curious about this, and watched the whole video (while cooking).
They slammed Suzuki pretty hard about the lack of the diagnostic cable. Fair enough.
Then at the very end, they stated that the Zuke was ailing from.... Bad Fuel. Once that was sorted, the Zuke reportedly ran fine.
Not exactly a condemnation of the technology.
100% agree on the fuel problem. But multiple dealers not having the diagnostic cable was the troubling part. Certified support is something I have overlooked in the past and is now something I consider a major piece of the puzzle when making a purchase decision.Classic! While I can relate to their frustration with the dealer over the diagnostic cable, engine failure was 100% operator failure. Wonder how long it will be before the Yamaha falls from favour.
Hard to imagine Suzuki wouldn't next day air ship a cable to the dealer, even if the dealer or the customer was willing to pay for it.
Ted
Possibly. Personally, I view this as one side of the story. Secondly, I doubt having the cable would have helped diagnose the problem, other than eliminating some possibilities. Finally, would their experience have been any different with any other 15 HP outboard, with the same problem, and the same service department?100% agree on the fuel problem. But multiple dealers not having the diagnostic cable was the troubling part. Certified support is something I have overlooked in the past and is now something I consider a major piece of the puzzle when making a purchase decision.
They slammed Suzuki pretty hard about the lack of the diagnostic cable. Fair enough.
I too cringe when considering a little outboard with full blown EFI with computers and sensors. But the truth is, at least on the larger outboards and especially automobiles, these systems have proven quite reliable. I'm around these things all day and the number of them that need dedicated diagnostic troubleshooting is remarkably low. For the most part, they just work.
Yep, recovered many from water in the fuel, but that does not require diagnostic equipment. It is a different fix than draining carbs, but generally no more difficult than a carb engine.
And you can let an EFI motor sit for six months and it will crank right up. Carb engine, you better get out the tools 'cause you are going to clean some carbs!!
And how many times have I had a dead OMC with an electronic power pack or trigger wheel or stator?? Many many. Or on the really old ones, clean the breaker points.
I'm still skeptical of the little EFI motors because they are different (battery-less electrical power), but due to the very real benefits, I'm going to give them a chance.
Did I mention how much I despise cleaning carbs??