Wanted: Hatch Pulls wanted

[healhustler]

I'm searching for a couple of matching hatch pulls for my Krogen Manatee. I've tried the usual makers but to no avail. Still searching marine used parts outfits. Size approx 3 3/4" X 2 3/4". Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[FlyWright]

Did you check here?

Second Wave-Marine Consignment Stores

Here's another one near me that just might have them. If they have them in stock, let me know. I'll go check them out, get them and mail them to you.

http://www.shipwreckusedparts.com/

 

[healhustler]

Thanks Al. I checked the Second Wave Marine link and sent shipwreck an e-mail with the description. Who knows, maybe.

 

[C lectric]

PERKO Inc. - Cabinet Hardware - Flush Lifting Handle (Marinium)

Maybe not suitable but maybe so. There are two sizes and the larger has the screws in the corner apparently.

 

[bluebyu]

Try McMaster Carr, search for "flush handles"

 

[healhustler]

C letric: I really like the looks of those pulls, but they are chrome plated. They've got some other brass units too, but they tend to rattle when mounted over top an idling diesel. Thanks.

 

[healhustler]

Try McMaster Carr, search for "flush handles"

Man, what a catalog. No luck on the stock of flush handles they have though.

 

[rochepoint]

Maybe these, size looks right........
BOAT HATCH FLUSH RING PULL SOLID CAST BRASS - Ring Pulls - Cabinet Hardware - Cabin Hardware

 

[Northern Spy]

Did you try Lee Valley? If not it's a good place to kill some time and spend some money...

 

[psneeld]

not exact but close....

Sea-Dog, Hatch Lift Handle, Cast Brass

looks closer
Sea-Dog Brass Hatch Handle Latches

 

[healhustler]

Wow...great feedback. Mike Barge, you nailed it. True, they are brass, but I can switch out the other set on the other veranda hatch so everything matches....maybe even brush the brass so it weathers a bit. Unfortunately, the page reads "out of stock". Well, at least they have a source.

Northern Spy (another Mike). I must have been on that site for over an hour and bought two other items.

Psn: That second one with the hatch lock is really worth thinking about. These days, Krogen is putting locks on the hatches. This is a new hatch that would be big enough for someone to crawl into, perhaps past the genset and main engine and get into the cabin. Hadn't thought about it, but maybe I should go with that design instead.

Great feedback. Thanks everyone.

 

[C lectric]

You might try Perko to see if you can get unplated or unchromed. At some point in the mfgr, they are just raw brz.

Unless of course the others are deemed more suitable.

 

[HopCar]

Larry, if that one I got you from Phoenix Lock won't work, you can return it.

C lectric is right about the Perko ones. At some point they are not plated and they are the right size. The problem is they make them in batches and it can be some time between runs.

If they would work, you could buy the chrome plated ones and have them unplated. I understand any plating shop can do that.

 

[healhustler]

Larry, if that one I got you from Phoenix Lock won't work, you can return it.

The Phoenix units were just too deep to mount them flush. They were through the teak and almost through the top glass layer. Before I made the commitment to mount them, I set them on the hatch and started the engine, let it idle. They rattle pretty badly. I need to find the tight handles like the original units. Sometimes they are too tight, but no rattles anywhere.

I figured I had them too long to return them to Phoenix. I may be able to use them for something else as well. I like to keep hardware on hand.

Since there is only one other hatch in the veranda, I might consider replacing them all with brass. I've also refinished the teak deck and trim, so it might look pretty good. Additionally, the idea of using a locking hatch pull may be the perfect excuse for doing the same to both hatches. The new hatch looks so original that I thought it would deserved the original style pulls.

 

[AusCan]

I picked up a stainless shell latch that looks like what you have. It won't rattle as the handle is spring loaded to keep it down.
It will be a few days before I am home to check you the manufacturer is.

 

[HopCar]

"I figured I had them too long to return them to Phoenix"
That's why you bought them from your friendly neighborhood marine store.
If you can't use them, return them. I'll take care of it.
You can buy me lunch as a thank you for such good service!

 

[healhustler]

You can buy me lunch as a thank you for such good service!

I'm not sure that would be a good deal or not. I've already seen how much you can eat!

 

[captgrail]

Healhustler,

Looking over some of your posts today to see what other Manatee projects you've documented I saw this image. Is this a photoshoped photo or did you add the 2nd hatch compartment? Was it a DIY job? It looks nice but I also thought about a way to lock it, I actually had a skinny friend who could gain access to my boat from the companionway hatches into the galley. Used to show up early for happy hour without me! I am curious about the thickness of the sole - both the plank and structure. Mine is varnished but I'm wondering about stripping it off and leaving it natural. The 2nd hatch sure would make access easier.

 

[HopCar]

"I'm not sure that would be a good deal or not. I've already seen how much you can eat!"
Hey, I resemble that remark!

 

[AusCan]

I've always been a little concerned about a non-locking cockpit hatch. If the boat gets pooped, you'd lose the hatch (and then your engine).

So make sure there is a catch on your hatch latch!

 

[Brooksie]

I've always been a little concerned about a non-locking cockpit hatch. If the boat gets pooped, you'd lose the hatch (and then your engine).

So make sure there is a catch on your hatch latch!

Agree completely, wooden hatches especially, should dog down; they will float right off.
HATCH HANDLE/LATCH BRASS 3 1/8" X 2 11/16" 732007
wrong size but right type

 

[HopCar]

Brooksie, Seadog makes that latch in a larger size and out of stainless as well.
That latch was originally made by a company called ABI. ABI went out of business and Seadog knocked off the design. Seadog is making some interesting low priced hardware. I have the old ABI ones on my boat so I'm glad to see a replacement available.
Sea-Dog : Quality Marine, Industrial and Rigging Hardware

 

[robbie]

These look identical, right size too.
I use Mercer marine for lots of stuff.

https://www.mercersmarine.com/sagro/storefront/store.php?mode=showproductdetail&product=892

Robbie.

 

[healhustler]

These look identical, right size too.
I use Mercer marine for lots of stuff.

https://www.mercersmarine.com/sagro/storefront/store.php?mode=showproductdetail&product=892

Robbie.

Holy smokes! Their even bronze. Once tarnished, no one will ever see the difference. Still, I may add a locking latch. Thanks Robbie.

 

[robbie]

You're very welcome,

Decent price as well, can't be bad.

 

[healhustler]

Dang, Robbie...that's an interesting website. They have a whole host of products different than what we have down here. It's interesting that they stock a specific size of Diamond Sea-Glaze windows. The only thing we've got working for us in Florida is Hopkins-Carter in Miami (of all places), and he always wants you to take him to lunch. I will admit, however, that he does deliver to hardship cases like myself and others here on the forum.

 

[Brooksie]

Still, I may add a locking latch. Thanks Robbie.

I recall, many years ago maybe 35, rowing out to my friend's 44' tugboat to get something for him. It looked a little low but I didn't think anything of it till I was alongside. The water was going in the scuppers, not out and when I stood and looked aboard, the deck hatch was floating and water pouring into the bilge space. not knowing exactly what to do, and without anything to do it with, I took my sweatshirt off, put it across the hatch opening, placed the floating hatch and jumped on it to jam it in. Then set off across the harbor to the marina for help. By the time they got there with a pump, the boat was on the bottom. That made an impression on me and I could see that there would have been time to save his boat if he had had flaps over his scuppers and his hatches hadn't floated off.

I have taken a wave over my transom which would have sunk my boat if my hatches had floated off.

 

[healhustler]

Point well taken, Brooksie. You sold me. The new hatch is large and heavy. One of the Krogen reps was aboard the other day and after telling him the plan was to hinge the aft end so it would open away from the salon doors, he advised that Krogen was now hinging them to either side, so regardless, the hatch won't be floating away, but could pop open. A gas-assist cylinder wouldn't help the situation. The smaller lazerette hatch will also get the same treatment minus the gas-assist cylinder.

 

[robbie]

Hatches hinged on both sides?, so are you going to modify the hatches into 2 halves?, I can see the reasoning, in fact I'm amazed that this isn't the norm on all trawlers.
My boat is designed for rough water, so all the hatches are heavy aluminum diamond plate and firmly fastened down.

 

[Wxx3]

Point well taken, Brooksie. You sold me. The new hatch is large and heavy. One of the Krogen reps was aboard the other day and after telling him the plan was to hinge the aft end so it would open away from the salon doors, he advised that Krogen was now hinging them to either side, so regardless, the hatch won't be floating away, but could pop open. A gas-assist cylinder wouldn't help the situation. The smaller lazerette hatch will also get the same treatment minus the gas-assist cylinder.

Thanks. all, I too, have ordered two for replacements, one that is broken in my salon.

My lazerette hatch is as described above. I wondered why is was so heavy, and then with the gas-assist. It takes a lot of force to raise it enough, so that the gas assist takes over.

Every day I appreciate another design feature of the Kadey Krogen.

Thanks, Richard