We are awake and it had already been reported. We are also discussing the same thing you are discussing here. Most forums I come from do not allow negative feedback in the For Sale section. It is a BUYER BEWARE situation. Psneeld's question, IMO, is perfectly fine. Does it work? Nothing wrong with that. But I do not agree that Marin's is usefule in any way or anyone else that slams the OP's for sale item. Anyway, I do not know if things will change here but I am just stating my opinion. I believe people that buy stuff on the internet should be smart enough to know what works and what they want and they don't need the omnipotent advice of everyone in the Universe!!! This is a place to sell things. Not discuss things. Imagine if Marin ever put his boat up for sale. We have pages and pages of how he thinks it is not the ideal boat and that his engines suck.....straight from his mouth/fingers. Would it be appropriate for us to post that on his for sale thread??? No it would not. Anyway, I am not in favor of extended negative discussion on someone's for sale thread.