Band b, you guys stay at north cove after the management change? Any difference?
Yes. In the process of the change it suffered. There was a lot of festering anger around. Brookfield wasn't prepared. However, the marina today is, in our opinion, better run than the Dennis Conner era. The politics we didn't even attempt to understand.
The marina only has a maximum capacity of 32 boats including the sailing school. In reality it's a marina for 12 yachts. I don't think IGY has figured it out completely. Obviously they didn't have demand for off season as they're catering to transients. With another marina across the way in Newport, they just referred winter business there. It's been neglected for years, time will tell how it's treated now. We stay there for one reason only and that is that it's "on the mainland", in Manhattan, no crossing the Hudson. It can handle boats up to 175'. We picked North Cove when we had plans to do a lot in the city and return very late several nights.
I'm a fan of IGY marinas in general, but they still have to prove themselves to me on this one. Actually Brookfield, the owners, may be the ones that need to by financially supporting it. We haven't been to Chelsea, Surfside, Pier 40 or Pier 25.
I believe most people on this forum would be happier with the marinas on the Jersey side and Liberty Landing and Newport are better run. In many situations we would be as we've liked both of those.
I tried to think of something to compare North Cove too. Very unfavorably I'll compare to 5th Avenue Landing in San Diego. It's a boutique marina for 12 boats up to 300'. It is run as professionally as any marina you will ever see. It's secure. The rates are high but the service merits them. It's right beside the Marriott Marina which is great with 450 slips. They both have the convenience of the Marriott, being in the heart of San Diego, and public transportation. Meanwhile, North Cove has the convenience.