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This info was lifted from an RV site , but low voltage and low amps is a common problem.
I have no idea if this works , but found the info interesting.
And perhaps useful for some.
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I have a Forest River 19RR with a 13.5 AC unit. I want to be able to run the AC on one Honda EU2000i generator in ECO mode.
Currently, when the temperature is above 85 degrees, it takes two EU2000 generators running with ECO Mode off to get them running. Once running I can switch to ECO mode but when the compressor cycles, it trips the low voltage shut off on my Progressive Industries EMS.
https://progressiveindustries.myshop.../ems-hw30c-pid
Running with two generators and ECO off is noisy and uses more fuel. Got to be a better way...
First thing I did was install a aftermarket start capacitor.
I did this installation when the temperature was 60 degrees and it would start the AC on one generator, but not in ECO mode. I could run the AC in ECO mode with both generators. But once the temperature got above 85 degrees, see above!
Research led me to a small company in Allentown NJ (Not PA). They make a device that looks at a few different parameters of your electricity draw and adjusts with some kind of magic and supposedly you can run an AC unit like I have on one 2000 watt generator.
https://www.microair.net/collections...-soft-starters
I happen to be going down to Cape May NJ this past weekend and would be going right through Allentown NJ. I called them and asked if I could stop by and pick up the device I needed. I mentioned I'm a member of the Forest River Forum and they offered me a $40 discount!
The "factory" is a very small building in a beautiful farming area of NJ. A very nice lady took care of me and I was on my way.
Once home I took the cover off the AC. Removed the start capacitor and installed the Easy Start. Took all of 20 minutes! Four wires and you are done!
I mounted the Easy Start to the front of the AC unit , under the cover.
Buttoned it all up, and ran a test after starting the AC five times on shore power as the instructions tell you. You need the Easy Start and the AC unit to understand each other before you go to generator power
Temperature was 86 degrees during the tests. The generator was in ECO mode throughout the test.
I let it run for over two hours to be sure the AC could cycle while the generator was in ECO mode.
AMAZING! It works! Nice , quiet, one generator in ECO mode and a nice cool trailer.
Now I ask, why don't they install these units in the AC from the factory. For under $300, you are saving your ears, your neighbors ears and your second generator!
Highly Recommended!
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I have no idea if this works , but found the info interesting.
And perhaps useful for some.
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I have a Forest River 19RR with a 13.5 AC unit. I want to be able to run the AC on one Honda EU2000i generator in ECO mode.
Currently, when the temperature is above 85 degrees, it takes two EU2000 generators running with ECO Mode off to get them running. Once running I can switch to ECO mode but when the compressor cycles, it trips the low voltage shut off on my Progressive Industries EMS.
https://progressiveindustries.myshop.../ems-hw30c-pid
![IMG_2364-vi.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages41.fotki.com%2Fv1245%2Fphotos%2F2%2F36012%2F13805932%2FIMG_2364-vi.jpg&hash=6984b2e89b9c0e2dc3cf392deea31186)
Running with two generators and ECO off is noisy and uses more fuel. Got to be a better way...
First thing I did was install a aftermarket start capacitor.
![IMG_2367-vi.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages15.fotki.com%2Fv246%2Fphotos%2F2%2F36012%2F13805932%2FIMG_2367-vi.jpg&hash=e424980a6c961d76d82b1c55073ab86b)
I did this installation when the temperature was 60 degrees and it would start the AC on one generator, but not in ECO mode. I could run the AC in ECO mode with both generators. But once the temperature got above 85 degrees, see above!
Research led me to a small company in Allentown NJ (Not PA). They make a device that looks at a few different parameters of your electricity draw and adjusts with some kind of magic and supposedly you can run an AC unit like I have on one 2000 watt generator.
https://www.microair.net/collections...-soft-starters
I happen to be going down to Cape May NJ this past weekend and would be going right through Allentown NJ. I called them and asked if I could stop by and pick up the device I needed. I mentioned I'm a member of the Forest River Forum and they offered me a $40 discount!
The "factory" is a very small building in a beautiful farming area of NJ. A very nice lady took care of me and I was on my way.
Once home I took the cover off the AC. Removed the start capacitor and installed the Easy Start. Took all of 20 minutes! Four wires and you are done!
![IMG_2361-vi.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages15.fotki.com%2Fv792%2Fphotos%2F2%2F36012%2F13805932%2FIMG_2361-vi.jpg&hash=8d4256ace6d776a32a0629cc08b311d5)
I mounted the Easy Start to the front of the AC unit , under the cover.
![IMG_2365-vi.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages14.fotki.com%2Fv219%2Fphotos%2F2%2F36012%2F13805932%2FIMG_2365-vi.jpg&hash=e880475c553f9af0c2b04322f9711912)
Buttoned it all up, and ran a test after starting the AC five times on shore power as the instructions tell you. You need the Easy Start and the AC unit to understand each other before you go to generator power
![IMG_2360-vi.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages40.fotki.com%2Fv1648%2Fphotos%2F2%2F36012%2F13805932%2FIMG_2360-vi.jpg&hash=e06922114e660934ae3ad2d63e5743df)
Temperature was 86 degrees during the tests. The generator was in ECO mode throughout the test.
![IMG_2362-vi.jpg](/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages60.fotki.com%2Fv361%2Fphotos%2F2%2F36012%2F13805932%2FIMG_2362-vi.jpg&hash=62f7c5e6068dbab7558f0d1744cacb90)
I let it run for over two hours to be sure the AC could cycle while the generator was in ECO mode.
AMAZING! It works! Nice , quiet, one generator in ECO mode and a nice cool trailer.
Now I ask, why don't they install these units in the AC from the factory. For under $300, you are saving your ears, your neighbors ears and your second generator!
Highly Recommended!
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