A great comment but...Really?boatpoker said:Go for a ride in 3-4' seas. You will quickly drop this boat from your wish list.
A great comment but...Really?
Be happy to hear more and you can PM me if you like.
I've sea trialed Monk 36's in 3-4' seas. Both hands are required to hold on.
The bottom is near flat, there is very little hull in the water and they bounce around like a cork. As the fresh water tank gets low the transom is nearly out of the water and she ploughs, making steering difficult in even the lightest following sea.
Since you have zero to gain by saying this and stand to have stuff chucked at you from owners, I do appreciate your candor.I've sea trialed Monk 36's in 3-4' seas. Both hands are required to hold on.
The bottom is near flat, there is very little hull in the water and they bounce around like a cork. As the fresh water tank gets low the transom is nearly out of the water and she ploughs, making steering difficult in even the lightest following sea.
Hmmm.boatpoker; said:The bottom is near flat...very little hull in the water...
As the fresh water tank gets low the transom is nearly out of the water...
Rats, but thanks anyway.truant2; said:Looked at a new one in a slip in Rock Hall, MD. Kept rolling so much almost got ill.
Don't most of these smaller TTs bob and roll?
I'm not disputing what others have said and certainly the need for ballast says something. I just have trouble reconciling the negatives with everything I know and believe about the 2 Eds.koliver; said:Know some folks that had a Monk 36 a few yrs ago. Never heard any complaints about lively bouncing from them. I know they were regularly crossing the gulf...Must have some experience in 3' to 4' seas.
Some more than others, this is one of the worst, right up there with the Carver 32 aft cabin.
Huh. I thought our Carver 3207 rode pretty well for a boat that was just 12,000 lbs dry weight. Not a knee jerk defense of a boat we owned, I just genuinely thought it rode well and had a nicely designed hull for a modestly priced boat. Had a nice deep and sharp forefoot (even though it did flatten out toward the transom) unlike the Monk 36 so it would cut through pretty well. Did roll a lot though. Too light.
Thanks.psneeld; said:The number of "great" boats as described by owners differs pretty significantly from the number of "great" boats from those that run many different boats under many conditions. I think owner input is important but in my experience it has to be tempered with a little "ego boosting" and lack of knowing better to a degree.
My requirements are very flexible but I won't compromise on comfort, either running in the frequent moderate seas of our coast or on the hook. The comfort of my "crew" is even more important than my own.Whenever you are convinced only one "boat" will do the trick...you either accept known issues with that type boat or fly to a boat where you can really put it though its paces.
Yup, thanks Jim. Covered those thoughts in post #18 above.Desolation Sound Charters has a Monk 36 in its fleet which you could charter. In fact you may be able to make an arrangement to take it for a sea trial for a price if you are serious
See; different perspectives. The little bit of exterior wood, I could easily live with.Rebel112r said:Too much exterior wood for me.
Now there is an interesting case. Assuming you are in Drayton Harbor, he either goes out in the lumpy stuff or stays home often. How many times over the past year did he sit at the dock while you went out? Or an even better measurement, how many times when he sat would you have gone out in his boat?A fellow in our marina has one. He and I brought it up from Seattle to Birch Bay last spring.
Thanks, I keep forgetting about your Village MarinaRebel112r; said:20+ mph out of sw. I decided to take 3-4 footers on stbd bow and when we got close in to Matia made the turn to the NW and on to Fossil Bay. Things got tossed around making the turn. The Monk headed straight across, with seas more on the beam...said it was a little nasty but not scary bad. He ran at 8 kts compared to my 6 for the trip.
The trouble with only considering owner feedback has been discussed many times...
The number of "great" boats as described by owners differs pretty significantly from the number of "great" boats from those that run many different boats under many conditions.
I think owner input is important but in my experience it has to be tempered with a little "ego boosting" and lack of knowing better to a degree.
There seems to be a layer of boaters with enormous experience...than quite a void down to the weekend and occasional boater that has owned a few and rode on a few more in varied conditions. So picking out gems from the "white noise" can be a challenge.
Like many of the pictures posted from owners in 5-6 foot seas.....yeeow....my camera must be from a planet with different gravity and yardsticks.....
I see 2 choices. Whenever you are convinced only one "boat" will do the trick...you either accept known issues with that type boat or fly to a boat where you can really put it though its paces. I didn't go to my sea trial as I wanted a particular boat and knew the sea trial wasn't going to "learn me" any more about that size, shape, style TT. After 10,000 miles of the type of travel I expected...the boat hasn't given me any surprises.