rgano
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- Oct 8, 2007
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- 5,152
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- Panama City area
- Vessel Name
- FROLIC
- Vessel Make
- Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
In the past the insurance company would auction them off , I have seen they would group them in lots (25 to a lot for example) and you got the whole lot and had to move them , for the private owners I suspect the city or town would condemn them to get title , I saw one auction that was selling them and they got marked as running or not , of course they are as-is , so watch out for them to make thier way up north or westAnyone know the pragmatic details? Who pays o the removal? What ultimately happens to the vessels so severely injured as to be unable to be relaunched? What happens to the boats considered “totaled”? Who owns them? Or if whoever salvaged them is then responsible for the proper disposal of them?
GRP hulls don’t regrade. Both sail and power boats contain multiple toxic materials beyond fuel and batteries. Could see leaving them in the water having environmental impacts. But could also see putting them in landfills or the like producing issues. What’s the long term plan?
Due to recurrent hurricanes in the Caribbean in recent years the periphery of some harbors remain littered with sunken boats. There are also abandoned boats from broken dreams. Particularly in the windwards the countries don’t have our resources. This compounded by most boats being foreign flagged, owners not having deep pockets and difficult salvage means these boats just sit. Florida is different as state and federal resources exist but suspect among the third remaining untouched a similar dynamic exists.
As an aside both us and close friends investigated moving our boats down to Florida. Due to the loss of dock space it was impossible. The remaining space is booked out so far we’re even reluctant to visit and wander using transient dockage. Think this means much less out of state boaters even in areas unelected. Believe this has effected dockage as far north as Georgia and South Carolina as some are just looking for places to wet store and not need to winterize.
The volume of ground fiberglass from even a high volume of destroyed boats won't come close to the volume of discarded fiberglass from power generation windmill blades.
How many windmill blades were damaged in Ian?
I wonder if we (the US) will ever try what Europe was trying awhile back of trying to start companies interested in refurbishing older glass hulls into new/restored vessels.
Not a total solution... hopefully it could be a good start especially if you could order a custom job, hold the frills and wind up with what you want at a decent price.
I might be in if something like that was in the cards.
I wonder if we (the US) will ever try what Europe was trying awhile back of trying to start companies interested in refurbishing older glass hulls into new/restored vessels.
Not a total solution... hopefully it could be a good start especially if you could order a custom job, hold the frills and wind up with what you want at a decent price.
I might be in if something like that was in the cards.
How many windmill blades were damaged in Ian?
Because it wasn't insured?Taboo is a wooden boat. It is pretty big and looks to be in average condition. If it was insured the storm was probably the best thing to happen for the owner. Sad but true.
I kind of doubt if his insurance is good though, otherwise why worry about $16,000?
pete
Europe is using the heavy hand of government to achieve broadly popular goals. It'll never fly in the US.
I looked pretty closely at recycling old boats on a large scale. The biggest impediment to getting a viable program is that the landfills accept the carcasses at minimal cost.
They were situated on a quaint hillside, looked like they cut doors into the sides of the hulls for easy entry. neighborhood looked pretty cool to an old liveaboard like me on several levels.
So ....................Have all toxic materials removed and dumped in the sea or become an artificial reef?
I think most bigger boats leave by barge. There's no other practical way to move them intact.Exactly. Wonder what the cost analysis is comparing out to sea to to the landfill. Towing to sea and sinking at face value is a great idea. The thousands of mini reefs would be fabulous fish habitat. Or think about a reef with a thousand in a pile? Pure genius Hippo. What am I missing?
......... There's no other practical way to move them intact.
Interesting news story. This caught my attention. The gentleman who owns the 65' yacht Taboo, lives in a canal home in SW Florida and cannot afford 16.5K to float the boat on his own? Curious. The last two years must have hit him pretty hard financially.