bfloyd4445,
If you want 2 gph and a 40' boat you need a full disp boat. Like a Krogen 42 or a Willard 40.
Sorry, but my BS detector just went off!
Anyone who gets into a boat and goes nowhere and back is "wasting a non renewable resource unneccessarily". Even if you go someplace, stay for a while,and return home in a boat you are wasting non renewable resources. If you really want to conserve resources, you will stay home or at least take the train or carpool.
Say you want to cut costs or fuel consumption for your own benefit and that's fine. Say you're doing it for the environment or "future generations" and it's BS.
Nothing personal, that's just the way it is.
willards are sailboat hulls turned into trawlers in my opinion after looking at one. They have all the disadvantages of a sailboat and none of the advantages in my opinion.
I am re-powering my OA 50 at present. It came with twin Cummins 270 HP, although some boats were also sold with FL 120's. The latter are often regarded as underpowered. I think the Cummins was way overpowered. Or actually, at a silly midpoint - too much for displacement cruising, and not enough for planing on the semi-displacement hull. The hull would need around 850 HP to plane well based on calculators I've used. So I chose to repower halfway between the FL 120's and the Cummins 270's. I am putting in JD 201 HP's. It is still overpowered by factor of 2. Seems to me that having that 'reserve power' is prudent. You don't have to use it, and I expect that I seldom will.
I would be quite happy with just one engine, so I had the yard cost out changing to a single 400 HP. It was more expensive than the new twins. Part of the problem is I would need new shaft log and rudder, gearbox, shaft and prop, and need to remove and fair the existing shaft logs and rudder areas. Also, the large single engine was very pricey. By staying with carefully chosen twins I can retain my old gears (but reconditioned them) and props.
willards are sailboat hulls turned into trawlers in my opinion after looking at one. They have all the disadvantages of a sailboat and none of the advantages in my opinion.
Except the big one you are worried about...they are very economical under power as well...
don't even talk about tractors here....you might as well be talking about the now defunct space shuttle program, it's engines and what kind of fuel economy and longevity they had...
bfloyd
Willards have quite a following from some pretty bright guys. I'd never confuse them with a sail boat but then again I don't have 29 hp tractor experiences to draw from.
sorry if i ofended you
but the fact is many of the engines in our boats are tractor engines
bfloyd--- Ironically, for the kind of boating you profess to wanting to do--- offshore cruising and fishing--- a Willard is probably one of the best choices you can make. Far, far better than the GB you keep talking about. If my wife and I were interested in offshore cruising-- by which I mean in the open ocean even if it's just a few miles off the beach--- a Willard would be on our short list of boats to use for that. A GB wouldn't even make it to the long list.
Floyd wrote;
"willards are sailboat hulls turned into trawlers in my opinion after looking at one. They have all the disadvantages of a sailboat and none of the advantages in my opinion."
World's apart. And obviously not your world. But in your defense all FD hulls are somewhat similar and FD power boats look a whole lot different than other power boats below the WL. FD power boats tend to have a very long keel while sail boats have short keels. Sailboats are very "pointy" at both ends while power boats are full and wide astern and full in the bow. The Willard 30, 40 and 36 are 100% power boat. Some have sails but ther'e not even motorsailers.
Naw...you didn't offend me...
Who here has tractor engines in their boat???
maybe i should have stated that many marine diesel engines systems had their roots in farm eqiupment. Their are lots of JD powered boats. Havent seen any combine engines in boats <IH> ?
Very nice looking sailboat and it does look somewhat like my Willard. But now-days sailboats have a very low prismatic coefficient compared to powerboats. If you look down at them from above they have a pronounced diamond shape. QUOTE]
Since the late 90's and early 2000's a lot of the bigger sailboats have big fat rears. The diamond shape you refer to is the old IOR rule beater where the rear was way narrower than the mid ship beam and it was swept upward as well. The handicap number was determined by the water line when the boat was standing upright. So by sweeping the transom up the water line number was low. My C&C was a 38' boat but her water line was 29'. When she was under sail her water line increased to about 36'. Making her very fast and yet she carried a High Handicap rating.
But the builders found a way to get more out of fat transoms when the sugar scoop came about and for the most part the Hunters and Catalina's have pretty big rears. Big rears give more livability in the aft stateroom.
sugar scoop .... must refer to some aspect of the hull shape aft???
The original hulls that got the steps off of the transom or in fact through the transom were referred to as a sugar scoop. Like the one mom had in the big bin of flour or sugar. They added water line under sail.
I thought it was a Lehman until you got to the 3 cyl. bit. Might still be one, cut in half......
I have an old tractor rated at 29hp at 2000 that i run at 16-1800. At that rpm u cant stop the thing it will just keep ploughing ahead even if ahead is a blackberry forest 12 feet tall. Its an old ford with a zillion hours on it and it just keeps going..... The old lehmans remind me of that engine except they are 6 cylinders and this one is three.
I thought it was a Lehman until you got to the 3 cyl. bit. Might still be one, cut in half.