Keith
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- Vessel Name
- Anastasia III
- Vessel Make
- Krogen 42
"Voyaging under power" is a good one too, especially if you can find a 1st edition used.
GG
Follow the thread about the 6000 mile trip to Brazil. BTW, how would you get your family into a N43? Your boat keeps getting smaller.
I am new at this Forum, Airline Pilot in France, and plan to travel with my wife and two kids 4 and 2 on a trawler around the world for an indefinited time.
So some can tell: again a dreamer, as I have a very small expertise and experience in sailing of motor boating....a little bit more in navigation, weather, and travelling with my job....but I am sure that We will do it. This is a challenge, but just an other one in our life, and to br honest it does not look like it's the biggest one.
We will do it on the safe side, with maybe a professional on the first crossing ( Europe-Caraibe), but we Have to do it as crossing ocean is something initiatic for us.
I read plenty of sailor familly blog who cross the world with initial few experience....This is life and we have only one.
I recomand ypu to google on NORDHAVN 43 KOSMOS to see a couple who circumnavigate the world in two years with absolutely no experience on start.
LOVE the picture!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Greetings, Mr. h. Not at all. My comment was directed towards the reappearance of Ms. GG after a 1 year hiatus and what I suspect may be another go-around of "What about this one?"...."Aw gee, almost but not quite...., close but no cigar and not enough of or too much of something-or others.....". Refreshing and a stimulating mental exercise for the first 200 or 300 posts but wearying after a while. You realize of course Ms. GG's syndrome is the personification of centuries, nay millenia of genetic conditioning that separates men and woman's shopping habits. When homo sapiens were hunter/gatherers, women (gatherers) had the luxury of sorting through the nuts, berries and roots to select the best for dinner. Men's (hunters) only option was get in, kill, get out. No lolly-gagging about making choices. If you weren't fast, you went hungry. Don't believe me? Go shopping with a woman.
Greetings,
Mr. h. Not at all. My comment was directed towards the reappearance of Ms. GG after a 1 year hiatus and what I suspect may be another go-around of "What about this one?"...."Aw gee, almost but not quite...., close but no cigar and not enough of or too much of something-or others.....". Refreshing and a stimulating mental exercise for the first 200 or 300 posts but wearying after a while.
You realize of course Ms. GG's syndrome is the personification of centuries, nay millenia of genetic conditioning that separates men and woman's shopping habits.
When homo sapiens were hunter/gatherers, women (gatherers) had the luxury of sorting through the nuts, berries and roots to select the best for dinner. Men's (hunters) only option was get in, kill, get out. No lolly-gagging about making choices. If you weren't fast, you went hungry.
Don't believe me? Go shopping with a woman.
I am always amazed by the list of what we think necessary for a crossing.
You definitely can go safely to sea in far less than what many recommend...
heck...remember the guy who wanted to fly and tied a bunch of helium balloons to a lawn chair? An advanced thinker...he remembered the BB gun for landing....
He's got more solo flight time than a LOT of armchair pilots...but I can't say his means of flying is much better than some dreamers ideas of crossing oceans.
human start to be paranoiac when ordering a new boat or planning a big adventure.
I was amazed yesterday to found on youtube a couple who cross the globe with their two small kids with very basic sailing boat.simple open cockpit with no wheel but a direct control. just a handle gps. no radar, no watermaker....
voilier.mov - YouTube
Some days ago I read that Nordhavn was surprise about a customer who order a N43 with nearly no options: no wing engine, no air co, no water maker, no hydraulic stabyliser.....they try to convince him about a longer list but realize that the owner had quite experience....Then official at PAE found it very refreshing when delivery....and realize that this owner had a new boat for far less that what the preowned market was asking for the same three-four year old boat!
On the my dyrona blog the owner say that iptions and post delivery nearly touch the 40 pourcent of the list price for a Nordhavn 52....
On my shoping list for a trawler able to carry my familly through the globe I will try to avoid becoming paranoiac.
item 1 is: the sea
item 2 is : family on board
Theses are the most important
I think you make a valid point. I am reminded of this every time I go over a replica of Captain Cook's Endeavour, or similar sailing vessel from the past.
I guess the trick is to get your must-have list down to the true essentials, and make sure those essentials are strong and good quality, and that preferably you can service/repair them yourself.
If you plan to go far afield then among those essentials I would list...
1. Reliable propulsion, and preferably back-up sail or wing engine.
2. Reliable refrigeration.
3. Reliable cooking equipment.
4. Water-maker and good tankage.
5. Self-steering of bulletproof design.
6. Good quality chart plotter, and also be able to use a sextant and charts.
7. Reliable and simple toilet arrangement.
I am assuming one has chosen a vessel with sound hull and decks and good sea-keeping characteristics.
But yes, we have become a bit paranoid re what we consider must haves, and in a boat there is not the need for double or triple redundancy such as you have in your aeroplane.
Most important of all....keep your eye on the prize...
stabilizers...depends on boat and crew.....
right back to the ridiculous "need" debate.....
Exactly my point! Next to NONE.........cruncher in this discussion though is ask Nordhavn or the other blue water builders such as KK, Dashew, etc how many order their new build boats today WITHOUT stabilizers, we all know the answer.
Yep. If it's a nordhavn, and your crew is salty and doesn't get sick for nothing then you don't need them. But if your going bring your family across an ocean and they have no experience with water, well... We know the answer to that don't we?....... Not that he would get to far and not turn back only to his realization that he needs them.stabilizers...depends on boat and crew..... right back to the ridiculous "need" debate.....
Greetings, Mr. h. Not at all. My comment was directed towards the reappearance of Ms. GG after a 1 year hiatus and what I suspect may be another go-around of "What about this one?"...."Aw gee, almost but not quite...., close but no cigar and not enough of or too much of something-or others.....". Refreshing and a stimulating mental exercise for the first 200 or 300 posts but wearying after a while. You realize of course Ms. GG's syndrome is the personification of centuries, nay millenia of genetic conditioning that separates men and woman's shopping habits. When homo sapiens were hunter/gatherers, women (gatherers) had the luxury of sorting through the nuts, berries and roots to select the best for dinner. Men's (hunters) only option was get in, kill, get out. No lolly-gagging about making choices. If you weren't fast, you went hungry. Don't believe me? Go shopping with a woman.