markpierce
Master and Commander
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- Sep 25, 2010
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- Location
- USA
- Vessel Name
- Carquinez Coot
- Vessel Make
- penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
yeah, i thought that was you i saw peeking from behind the bridge.
KK's are fine boats, no question, and will do what you want.
Our choice was Nordhavn, & no regrets. INFINITY has traversed God's blue earth once before, and we are well on our way to her 2nd circumnavigation. Currently in Tahiti, we're bound for New Zealand at the end of the month, via the South Pacific Islands.
Either boat will do what you want, you can't lose. Make it happen
KK's are fine boats, no question, and will do what you want.
Our choice was Nordhavn, & no regrets. INFINITY has traversed God's blue earth once before, and we are well on our way to her 2nd circumnavigation. Currently in Tahiti, we're bound for New Zealand at the end of the month, via the South Pacific Islands.
Either boat will do what you want, you can't lose. Make it happen
KK seems to be slightly more fuel eficient but Nordhavn appears to have the edge in quality of build. Just my observations I have yet to get on board any of them. Guess thats my next step
They are very different boats in many ways. However, the fuel efficiency between the two is irrelevant. Here's why I'm saying that. When you consider the entire cost of owning and operating those two boats, the difference in fuel costs will be so insignificant in the total picture you won't even see it if you don't look carefully. Fuel for us is about 8% of our total costs, but let's say for a moment it's 10% for you. Then say there is a 20% difference between two boats. That means it impacts your cost of ownership by 2%.
If you were talking a Fountain vs. a KK then it would be significant.
Can't decide which to buy Nord 40 to 46 or a kady same size range. Looking for extreme range and the ability to stay weeks at sea. Any suggestions?
Theirs another in Washington that tells me kk's are no good they have water intrusion issues and a Nordhavn or Selene is the way to go.
Your right i know whats important to me, I like both brands and if i were rich i would likely buy both but I'm not. Owning more than one boat is the norm for me anyway.I think if you have to ask, you haven't done your research. Anyone willing to put that kind of money down, will have a good idea of what they feel is important.
Jim
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To be honest i would rather just buy from an owner direct.
I think if you have to ask, you haven't done your research. Anyone willing to put that kind of money down, will have a good idea of what they feel is important.
Has this thread helped you in any way? Have you been better able to define your priorities? Do you still want to fish in typhoon conditions? Is your objective to fish? Have you considered a boat better suited to that mission? Have you figured out whether you are the type of fisherman that wants to travel to and return from the grounds at high speed? Or, are you comfortable with trawler speed? Is you concern over efficiency based on range, or cost? If cost, do you still think it matters? If range, have you figured out how much you need? You have been given a lot of advice, but whether it is good advice really depends on a better understanding of your objectives. If I were you, that is what I would focus on.
Has this thread helped you in any way? Have you been better able to define your priorities? Do you still want to fish in typhoon conditions? Is your objective to fish? Have you considered a boat better suited to that mission? Have you figured out whether you are the type of fisherman that wants to travel to and return from the grounds at high speed? Or, are you comfortable with trawler speed? Is you concern over efficiency based on range, or cost? If cost, do you still think it matters? If range, have you figured out how much you need? You have been given a lot of advice, but whether it is good advice really depends on a better understanding of your objectives. If I were you, that is what I would focus on.
And if you need range, throttle back. How do you think Sportfishes make it to distant ports????? Bladder tanks...slow speeds....and a GREAT BIG EYE on the weather!!!! If the Sportfishes I have mentioned scare you off due to expense, you have no business discussing Nordhavns or Krogens!!
Theirs another in Washington that tells me kk's are no good they have water intrusion issues and a Nordhavn or Selene is the way to go.
To be honest i would rather just buy from an owner direct.
I have a few absolute rules, one of which is never to deal with a service provider once I have caught him or her lying to me.
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I have a few absolute rules, one of which is never to deal with a service provider once I have caught him or her lying to me.
Integrity is key to me. I've walked quickly away from auto dealers and said no to many other suppliers over simple unnecessary lies, figuring if they'll lie on those things, they sure will on major things.
I've seen a number of mentions of doing a bottom peel on a Krogen but have never seen that mentioned for a Nordhavn. Maybe the KKs are older, there are more of them, I don't know - but it's definitely one of the top few alarm bells in MY mind about an older KK.On behalf of the many Krogen owners around the globe we are thankful for this broker pointing out an issue that we had not heard of before.
I have a few absolute rules, one of which is never to deal with a service provider once I have caught him or her lying to me.
I've seen a number of mentions of doing a bottom peel on a Krogen but have never seen that mentioned for a Nordhavn. Maybe the KKs are older, there are more of them, I don't know - but it's definitely one of the top few alarm bells in MY mind about an older KK.
If you go with a full displacement hull, make sure it has stabilizers. A KK48 owner just got an estimate to add active stabilizers. About $60K complete.
I agree! After reading all the posts on this thread, I'm not convinced that the OP is serious about buying a Nordhavn or a KK. (Or anything, for that matter.) It sounds more like "How many posts can i get with this topic?")I think if you have to ask, you haven't done your research. Anyone willing to put that kind of money down, will have a good idea of what they feel is important.