BC Flooding

[JDCAVE]

What I find interesting is the lack of up-to-date news from the US side on the situation for the Nooksack River. Everything seems to be a week old. Nothing from the Lynden, Sumas or Everson areas. Has the dyke been repaired there? There is another weather system on the way.

Jim

 

[GoneFarrell]

https://fvcurrent.com/article/will-the-nooksack-river-flood-again/

 

[psneeld]

Google "Miami Herald on BC flooding".


Multiple days reports from at least 6 days ago till hours ago.


Also reported there "SUMAS, Wash. Residents of this small U.S. city along the Canadian border were assessing damage from flooding that hit an estimated three quarters of homes, as Washington state and British Columbia tried to dry out from an intense, days-long rain storm that cut off key roadways and forced hundreds of evacuations."

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article255887531.html#storylink=cpy



Ya'all sure nobody is listening or cares? Farthest corner of continental US.

 

[SteveK]

Yesterday.
Kudos to Miami still reporting
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article256040162.html

and Bellingham Herald, great aerial views
https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/article256034652.html

 

[BandB]

Google "Miami Herald on BC flooding".


Multiple days reports from at least 6 days ago till hours ago.


Also reported there "SUMAS, Wash. Residents of this small U.S. city along the Canadian border were assessing damage from flooding that hit an estimated three quarters of homes, as Washington state and British Columbia tried to dry out from an intense, days-long rain storm that cut off key roadways and forced hundreds of evacuations."

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article255887531.html#storylink=cpy



Ya'all sure nobody is listening or cares? Farthest corner of continental US.

Good to see. Sad to see the struggles of the Miami Herald as they do have a history of some excellent reporting.

 

[sunchaser]

What I find interesting is the lack of up-to-date news from the US side on the situation for the Nooksack River. Everything seems to be a week old. Nothing from the Lynden, Sumas or Everson areas. Has the dyke been repaired there? There is another weather system on the way.
Jim

JD
In doing some reading I note that tributaries to the Nootsack have had several hydro dams removed to encourage salmon spawning and thereby assist the orcas. The latest removal was in 2020. These were not small dams and most definitely served as a means to flow control.

With the Nootsack spilling into the Sumas dry lake area during heavy rains it does raise a question or two. Cross border planning seems a relevant pursuit.

 

[Nightsky]

I think we all have to get used to the idea of more frequent and more severe weather events. Governments ( all governments all around the world, not pointing any fingers here) mostly think in short term cycles and are controlled by vested interests who want the status quo. Even if the whole world was to switch to renewable non polluting energy sources it would still take decades to turn the ship. We waited too long to take this seriously.

 

[Nomad Willy]

Up-Date

“Bloomberg) -- Canada’s westernmost province and home to its biggest port is bracing for more rainstorms after a deluge damaged transportation links, largely cutting it off from the rest of the country.

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Parts of British Columbia remain flooded more than a week after the extreme weather forced evacuations, washed away parts of major highways and blocked main transportation routes with mud slides. Several routes have reopened for essential travel only and railways are opening up to bring goods such as lumber and grain to the Port of Vancouver, but several areas remain short on supplies such as gasoline due to the damaged infrastructure.

In some areas, panic buying emptied grocery store shelves.

Environment and Climate Change Canada has forecast a series of storms over the next 10 days, raising the threat that main transportation routes could again be shut or repairs slowed just as roads and rail tracks reopen.

“Rain is once again hitting our province with more on the way. This will impact already soaked lands and waterways. The next nine or ten days could be quite challenging,” said Mike Farnworth, British Columbia’s minister of public safety and solicitor general, speaking at a press conference Tuesday afternoon.

The severity of the approaching rain storms will become more clear as they develop, Farnworth said, adding that the province has four million sandbags ready to be deployed if needed.

“We have extra crews and equipment ready to be mobilized,” said Rob Fleming, the province’s minister of transportation and infrastructure. “We have areas where we know the amount of precipitation that was part of the rain events has accumulated and poses a risk.”

Highways are being monitored from ground level as well as by air, Fleming said.”


Thanksgiving day up-date on continued flooding in BC.

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[bowball]

I think we all have to get used to the idea of more frequent and more severe weather events. Governments ( all governments all around the world, not pointing any fingers here) mostly think in short term cycles and are controlled by vested interests who want the status quo. Even if the whole world was to switch to renewable non polluting energy sources it would still take decades to turn the ship. We waited too long to take this seriously.

Agreed

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Not to minimize, in any way, the catastrophe in the west, the east coast is getting severe weather, as well. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/flood...undland-as-storm-stalls-over-region-1.5678999

 

[sunchaser]

I think we all have to get used to the idea of more frequent and more severe weather events. Governments ( all governments all around the world, not pointing any fingers here) mostly think in short term cycles and are controlled by vested interests who want the status quo. Even if the whole world was to switch to renewable non polluting energy sources it would still take decades to turn the ship. We waited too long to take this seriously.

From what I've heard this was a 50 to 100 year event. I was looking at a 100 year event government map from about 40 years ago and the road and building damage in Hope area for this event was unfortunately foreseen.

Nootsack River flood drawings show the same sad story for a 100 year event. Renewables while laudable will do nothing to prevent 100 year or worse floods in the Pacific Rain Forest.

 

[AlaskaProf]

I think that James T. Kirk was from Iowa. The actor that played J.T. Kirk was from Canada…

"I'm from Iowa. I only work in Space."
Star Trek IV

 

[Comodave]

"I'm from Iowa. I only work in Space."
Star Trek IV

Exactly. William Shatner was from Canada.

 

[SteveK]

BC is flooding again. 80mm, or 3 inches has fallen in 24 hours. 100-140mm expected in the worst case. It is raining hard. 140mm = 5.5 inches

ETA: 16 inches since Nov 1st

 

[BruceK]

BC is flooding again. 80mm, or 3 inches has fallen in 24 hours. 100-140mm expected in the worst case. It is raining hard. 140mm = 5.5 inches

ETA: 16 inches since Nov 1st

Perilous. Ground saturated, dams full, rivers already up, a second hit won`t be absorbed.
A bit like that here,currently with some respite. All dams are spilling. Enough about here, respite says we`ve a chance to actually use the boat.
Let`s hope BC can handle it.

 

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

Sorry Tom,
Here in BC, we have bigger fish to fry right now. Thousands of people are displaced from their homes and have no indication of when they will be able to return, and to what they will be returning to!!! Many gas stations are out of gas. Grocery stores are already out of many items like veggies and dairy! All of the major transportation methods and routes are impassable and could be for quite a while with many bridges collapsed! BC has declared a "State of Emergency" and rightly so!

This could end up being the costliest natural disaster in Canadian history, with impacts continuing for a long time to come (not to mention the already problem of "supply chain issues" before the floods), so sorry, we are not right now concerned with future debris that could affect our American friends when they "come north" on the water next spring (even if that does prove to be a bit of an "issue")!!!
Sorry to say it, but I find your post to be insensitive at best!!!
This is not meant as a personal attack, but it is directed at the wording and context of your post.

Well said Firehoser.
Completely insensitive and self centred, although I expected nothing more.

This is a poster who scours the internet to find inane “BC” stuff to immediately post and stir the pot. Yet when our chips are down, in he comes two days after the fact and couldn’t even quote his usual Canadian source, the CBC.

Bloomberg? Really?
609 words; “people” mentioned once.

I much more appreciate those who said nothing.

First opportunity to address this. As the OP, I posted what I thought would be an issue for cruisers in next years season. I did not intend my post to address the ongoing flooding in northern Washington and BC. I think before you jump on someone you need to fully understand the intent of the post. You missed that intend by many nautical miles. Make sure your bow is heading in the right direction before you jump on someone.



Now all news is local. I was surprised and happy to see the posts about the current disaster in NW Washington and BC. I have been travelling over the past month seeing grandkids. We did not see much news about the flooding, in fact it almost non existent. Yet if it affects NYC it is all over the news.

Thank OC. Your posts are apricated.

Great posts and I hope those who have witnessed the destruction will recover quickly. PNW people are a strong bunch and we all will take care of each other.

 

[DryDoc]

I’ve just been up Jervis Inlet and there is a field of debris, including building materials, from Semiahmoo Bay to the Skwawka River. We pulled a white exterior door out of Welcome Pass. Bathgates says they’ve watched the same cedar stump going in and out of the rapids for a week.

Same thing right up to Kincome Inlet, so it’s safe to say the central and north coast are the same now.

Will this junk be around in April? Good chance, but probably just more spread out and at the moment and spring cruising is far from most minds.

First opportunity to address this.

I call you on that, because since you originally post, you have posted 16 times on various topics. Twice in this thread.

PNW people are a strong bunch and we all will take care of each other.

The people of BC are just as strong as you all in the PNW.

 

[SteveK]

...............

The people of BC are just as strong as you all in the PNW.

HAHA. You had to say it.

Only the SE USA think the PNW stops at the border.

 

[psneeld]

Some of us with time in Alaska and above the circle think BC is in the SE.

 

[SteveK]

Some of us with time in Alaska and above the circle think BC is in the SE.

I see what you did there.

You should have said some of us with time in Alaska, in the PNW think BC is in the SE

 

[Alaskaflyer]

HAHA. You had to say it.



Only the SE USA think the PNW stops at the border.

Actually, in my experience only Canadians think the PNW stops at the border. Lol.

That said I try to be conscientious and include the “west coast” when talking about north of the border. Haven’t called it the left coast yet.

 

[DryDoc]

Unless defining one of the four corners of the contiguous US (lower 48), PNW defies logic.

What is it; the PNW of what? North America? I don’t think so or it would include Alaska. Many published definitions, most of which are US based, where geography is weak at best, include Idaho. So if by some twisted logic, BC is lumped in, why not Alberta? Citing the Rockies as a divide isn’t a valid argument either.

BC, Alaska and in fact the entire NA west coast is in the NE Pacific.

PNW is just a cutesy US fallacy, which carries no more truth than World Series or Buffalo wings.

But marketers know, if you repeat it often enough, it becomes true.

Next they will be trying to convince us the Strait of Georgia is the Salish Sea.

 

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

I’ve just been up Jervis Inlet and there is a field of debris, including building materials, from Semiahmoo Bay to the Skwawka River. We pulled a white exterior door out of Welcome Pass. Bathgates says they’ve watched the same cedar stump going in and out of the rapids for a week.

Same thing right up to Kincome Inlet, so it’s safe to say the central and north coast are the same now.

Will this junk be around in April? Good chance, but probably just more spread out and at the moment and spring cruising is far from most minds.


I call you on that, because since you originally post, you have posted 16 times on various topics. Twice in this thread.



The people of BC are just as strong as you all in the PNW.

Deleted. Not worth my time or effort to respond.

 

[SteveK]

Deleted. Not worth my time or effort to respond.

But,But,But
You did reply.

Wet coast-Wet coast-Wet coast

May be on the left of a right handed man.

 

[SteveK]

...................

Next they will be trying to convince us the Strait of Georgia is the Salish Sea.

Ya, I heard that too.
First they put a fleet of boats on the Georgia Straight and then name all Salish something, then ......... before you know it everyone is calling it the Salish Sea.

 

[Alaskaflyer]

I'm sure there is some sort of peculiar dry Canadianism happening here, but yes, "they" are, including your government as well as ours.

If some ship's captain can name geography, then a marine biologist ought to be able to also.

I personally prefer its previous name: Gran Canal de Nuestra Señora del Rosario la Marinera.

 

[Nomad Willy]

But,But,But
You did reply.

Wet coast-Wet coast-Wet coast

May be on the left of a right handed man.

Thank geography and nature we’re good and wet. If we had 8 or so inches of rain how many people do you think would flock to the PNW? Can you think of 3 or 4 California’s stacked up from Seattle to Juneau?

 

[kthoennes]

I understand. Subzero weather is the only thing holding back a stampede of crazed Californians moving to South Dakota.

 

[KnotYet]

I understand. Subzero weather is the only thing holding back a stampede of crazed Californians moving to South Dakota.

You should be glad that we only buy the choicest properties and then only stay
4-5 months a year!

 

[SteveK]

It occurred to me only locals may be aware of the Salish class of BC Ferries fleet with #6 steaming up the west coast after coming through the panama canal from Poland.
Talk about sea trials.