Lou_tribal
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I wish you the best. Hopefully there will be just minor scratches and nothing major and this will be a story to tell
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Dorian aims for East Coast of Florida
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Was your jib on a furler? It could have broken loose and is over the side. Looks like your blue sail.
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Here is a link to all the photos. Maybe someone with a computer can zoom in.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cm5LMUtNd1hwam9qQ1QxelhzbGdwUlk2Wmd2Ykln
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cm5LMUtNd1hwam9qQ1QxelhzbGdwUlk2Wmd2Ykln
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The vessel is upright. Looks like the entire main mast is complete. (Not so sure about the other pieces) The jib on the front (Sorry not a sailor) appears to be disconnected at the bow and hanging loose from the top of the mail mast. There is a sail boat that blew over to the aft and starboard of yours. The main mast of that sail boat is over the aft end of yours.
When I post the picture resizes. But blown up on my desk top there is a lot of detail that comes out. The black spot on the starboard of the top may be a solar panel.
When I post the picture resizes. But blown up on my desk top there is a lot of detail that comes out. The black spot on the starboard of the top may be a solar panel.
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Here you go, from a few different angles.
Two things. It does look like you have lost the top half of your mast.
Secondly, generally, all of the vessels stored "East to West" photo wise (actually I think compass-wise as well) are over, while the boats stored north to south are not. It looks like the worst winds came north to south, and that is what may have saved your boat.
Two things. It does look like you have lost the top half of your mast.
Secondly, generally, all of the vessels stored "East to West" photo wise (actually I think compass-wise as well) are over, while the boats stored north to south are not. It looks like the worst winds came north to south, and that is what may have saved your boat.
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Being in the center of the pack looks like it helped protect your vessel at the cost of some others.
The vessel on your port rolled over and away from yours.
The vessel on your starboard stayed up. Based on the direction of the way vessels rolled over, if that one rolled it would have hit yours. It did not!!!! Lady luck helped there.
Looks like 9 vessels stacked against the end buy the road. 3 may be 4 of those stayed up the rest tumbled over. Then a row of vessels perpendicular to those (and next to you) all rolled over EXCEPT the one next to yours.
Next is a line of yachts that includes yours. All rolled over except yours and the one off your bow.
The vessel on your port rolled over and away from yours.
The vessel on your starboard stayed up. Based on the direction of the way vessels rolled over, if that one rolled it would have hit yours. It did not!!!! Lady luck helped there.
Looks like 9 vessels stacked against the end buy the road. 3 may be 4 of those stayed up the rest tumbled over. Then a row of vessels perpendicular to those (and next to you) all rolled over EXCEPT the one next to yours.
Next is a line of yachts that includes yours. All rolled over except yours and the one off your bow.
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NOAA had satelite imagery they made avalaible to us for Irma damage. I could tell my glacier Bay was still on the boat lift and ok. Might be worth a call to see if they have imagery avalaible for the Abacos, Irma stuff was at https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/irma/index.html#6/28.139/-81.547
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Strange that the mast snapped. Maybe the sail furled out and stressed it. I had the jib off but not the main. Guess I should have tied it the main down better. It was an in mast fuerling sail.
That’s kind of depressing. Didn’t. Expect the mast to be broken.
That’s kind of depressing. Didn’t. Expect the mast to be broken.
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menzies
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That explains something I was wondering about. There seemed to be a cocoon over the break in the first photo - must be the sail. Looks like it is still mainly in the mast though.
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Hmmm. From PassageMaker.
Chris Parker of the Marine Weather Center has a great reputation as a weather router. He's a TrawlerFest instructor and has a pair of comprehensive weather courses for boaters about to come online at boatersuniversity.com.
Parker has been giving free, live Hurricane Dorian analyses every day at 6 p.m. on the Marine Weather Center Facebook page. You can rewatch the analysis quoted here by visiting the Mariner Weather Center's page on Facebook.
During Wednesday's session Parker, displaying the National Hurrican Center "cone of uncertainty" below, said he disagreed with the projected track.
Parker said the Hurricane Center might be too optimistic. He said the track might run closer to the coast of the Carolinas in general and Charleston in particular. If this were to happen, the damage could be worse than that caused by Hurricane Matthew in 2016. Part of the reason, Parker said, is that Dorian is moving much more slowly than Matthew and would linger delivering high winds and flooding (such as depicted in that North Carolina image from Matthew at top).
"The way you fared in Matthew is probably how you will fare with Dorian," Parker said, speaking in general.
Parker said the difference between his projected track and that of the Hurricane Center might only be 20 or 30 miles, but even this small difference would have significant consequences.
He also said to expect greater than forecast storm surge in some areas of the Carolinas such as Wrightsville Beach, where he predicts 10 feet of storm surge.
Chris Parker of the Marine Weather Center has a great reputation as a weather router. He's a TrawlerFest instructor and has a pair of comprehensive weather courses for boaters about to come online at boatersuniversity.com.
Parker has been giving free, live Hurricane Dorian analyses every day at 6 p.m. on the Marine Weather Center Facebook page. You can rewatch the analysis quoted here by visiting the Mariner Weather Center's page on Facebook.
During Wednesday's session Parker, displaying the National Hurrican Center "cone of uncertainty" below, said he disagreed with the projected track.
Parker said the Hurricane Center might be too optimistic. He said the track might run closer to the coast of the Carolinas in general and Charleston in particular. If this were to happen, the damage could be worse than that caused by Hurricane Matthew in 2016. Part of the reason, Parker said, is that Dorian is moving much more slowly than Matthew and would linger delivering high winds and flooding (such as depicted in that North Carolina image from Matthew at top).
"The way you fared in Matthew is probably how you will fare with Dorian," Parker said, speaking in general.
Parker said the difference between his projected track and that of the Hurricane Center might only be 20 or 30 miles, but even this small difference would have significant consequences.
He also said to expect greater than forecast storm surge in some areas of the Carolinas such as Wrightsville Beach, where he predicts 10 feet of storm surge.
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So hard to tell from the photo. Could be. If so, a new mast and re-rigging would be very minor damage after that. Also relatively easy to have done. That is assuming that is even your boat.
It has got to be hell not knowing and not being able to get there. I would hold off trying to go there until you find out if you can even get into the yard. Do they have power? Do they have water? Without either of those, it would be hard to do a lot of cleanup. If you sent over with a boat and immediately turned around and came back, what could you accomplish in a couple hours? I certainly don't know the answers as this is all way outside my experience, but going over too soon may end up being wasted effort, money, and aggravation.
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Here is the best I can do with the one previously posted. Very pixelated so I can only do so much adjusting.
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Its def my boat. I can see my old solar mounts. Don’t see my new outboard.
Has anyone ever had a boat claim like this? What should I do or not do? I don’t have it insured for much (175k), so I’m not going to come out well on this. I don’t see them totaling it based on this pic.
Has anyone ever had a boat claim like this? What should I do or not do? I don’t have it insured for much (175k), so I’m not going to come out well on this. I don’t see them totaling it based on this pic.
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Just be patient, I know easy to say when its not my boat. Go there when it is safe, then file your claim. The insurance agencies will have to have appraisers over there, so no sense you going off and then having to wait a month or more for the appraiser anyway.
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Documents will help tell the story to an adjuster.
If the current condition of JUST the yacht maxes out the coverage not much else would be needed.
However if there is going to be a claim for equipment like the outboard or other items on your boat - you will want to find as many documents as possible to show that in fact you did have these items and they were in certain condition. The sales receipts, pictures showing it was with the boat and any other paper work that can document equipment was on the vessel.
Copy them so you can give or send them when an adjuster contacts you.
You make it easy for the adjuster to settle you claim it may go better.
If the current condition of JUST the yacht maxes out the coverage not much else would be needed.
However if there is going to be a claim for equipment like the outboard or other items on your boat - you will want to find as many documents as possible to show that in fact you did have these items and they were in certain condition. The sales receipts, pictures showing it was with the boat and any other paper work that can document equipment was on the vessel.
Copy them so you can give or send them when an adjuster contacts you.
You make it easy for the adjuster to settle you claim it may go better.
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I think Menzie and Bigfish are giving you good advice..
menzies
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There may not be when the adjuster gets there, so make sure you get the full story from the yard or whoever can. Just take it slow and make good decisions.
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Dont rush..... Wait until you can get over there or at least someone local to take many more pictures.
Perhaps, a representative of your insurance company will want visit the boat.
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For those who lost or had their boats damaged by the hurricane, I am very sorry.
I am very happy we did not lose anyone in the trawler forum.
I am very happy we did not lose anyone in the trawler forum.
menzies
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For the US the worst maybe yet to come.
Hopefully not. Hope this thing heads out into the Atlantic and stays there. It seems to have been around for a hell of a long time.
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Someone didn't make it under cover of the storm...
Cocaine washed ashore on Florida beach by Hurricane Dorian
Cocaine washed ashore on Florida beach by Hurricane Dorian
I'd like to disagree with him, but I've had that feeling too. I think it's Matthew all over again. Another thought I wish I didn't have either and that is it picking up power. It's riding the warm Gulf Stream and they've gotten higher readings in the eyeball when flying in. 5 mph and it's a CAT 3 again.
It may make landfall later than Matthew did but however it does it a lot of rain, a lot of wind, a lot of surge. As he points out, even if it's further from shore than Matthew, the rain and surge can accumulate. Not like Florence, but as much or more than Matthew.
