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- 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
As they say "YMMV"
As they say "YMMV"
so I take most of the pontificating from people who have never used one about what a lousy hook it is with a grain of uninformed salt. As they say, everyone has an opinion, just like a certain orifice.
No, but perhaps just poor anchoring technique. The CQR generally comes out at the very bottom of anchor tests, yet oddly, in the hands of experienced seamen that seem to work quite well, being until a few years ago the anchor of choice for circumnavigators aboard small yachts for decades. The Bruce was considered quite an improvement at the time, although I agree with you that the bigger the Bruce, the better. But as they say, YMMV.I've used them, they've dragged. I try not to use them anymore. Unless they are very over sized.
But if they're so great why do they come out at or near the bottom in holding power in test after test?
Or is that just another example of uninformed salt?
No, but perhaps just poor anchoring technique. The CQR generally comes out at the very bottom of anchor tests, yet oddly, in the hands of experienced seamen that seem to work quite well, being until a few years ago the anchor of choice for circumnavigators aboard small yachts for decades. The Bruce was considered quite an improvement at the time, although I agree with you that the bigger the Bruce, the better. But as they say, YMMV.
Ahhhh,home.It never feels like home around here anymore until the inevitable " best anchor" thread drift shows up.
Well, we love our claws in the California Delta mud. My 15kg Claw had never failed me in literally hundreds of anchorings in the last 7 years. I'm hesitant to switch for something that can beat that 100% track record.
Maybe there's something about technique, type of bottom and accompanying ground tackle that makes a difference for some.
Well I'm trying to do my part. So while I'm at it, can I get you your pipe and slippers sir, a brandy as well? Or perhaps just more popcorn?
Im brand new to boating...... Ive haven't even dropped my anchor yet.. Ill be practicing when I get back to land.
Im brand new to boating...... Ive haven't even dropped my anchor yet.. Ill be practicing when I get back to land.
Maybe it's the difference between the copies and the original Bruce that affect the holding power of the claw types. I've measured my original Bruce to a claw copy on the boat next to me. There are differences in the measurements and angles. The copies also appear softer. I've seen a fair share in my marina with bent shank's from getting stuck I presume. My Bruce has only let go one time and it was in the above described thread. The only good anchor is the one that you can go to sleep with.
I know that you do not mean literally that you will be practicing putting out the anchor back on land (although you may). But actually, if you are new to it, then doing it in a manner that lets you see just exactly what the anchor is doing is not a bad idea. I used to watch mine set in the Caribbean (clear water), and they do some amazing things. Not at all necessarily what you think they will do. Also used to dive them in the Caribbean (because we would anchor for days or even weeks), and that is also instructive.
In my and seems other experienced cruisers opinions...it still may be more 90% captain than anchor...just so many variables j...
Just like the seaworthiness of a vessel...as much or more so the skipper than the boat.
In my and seems other experienced cruisers opinions...it still may be more 90% captain than anchor...just so many variables j...
Just like the seaworthiness of a vessel...as much or more so the skipper than the boat.