Marine Trader Europa - Lehman w Paragon Transmission

[gdinsdale2017]

I am looking at a 1976 Marine Trader Europa with a Lehman 120 with 4k hrs - The owner says the transmission - Paragon model ?? has a leak. Any suggestion on repair or replacement?. 4k hours is not a lot for a boat this age I wondering why the transmission has a leak ?

Any help appreciated

George

 

[CharlieO.]

Even though it only has 4000 hours it is 48 years old. Our boat only has 2900ish hours but it 47 years old. I replaced all the coolant hoses and oil lines on the engine recently because they were in rough shape. Had a pretty good oil leak from one hose and antifreeze seeping from another.

Do you know where it is leaking from? Could be a seal or gasket or hose.

 

[gdinsdale2017]

Thanks for the reply - The leak is the real seal. This is a boat I am looking to buy and trying to estimate how much will it cost to repair.

BTW I also looking at a 1987 Marine Trader 34 DC with a Lehman sp 135 - It has 2500 hrs and there is bubbles in the fuel line - Do I have to replace from the Racor 500 to the engine ? Any Idea?

Thanks Again

George

 

[CharlieO.]

Thanks for the reply - The leak is the real seal. This is a boat I am looking to buy and trying to estimate how much will it cost to repair.

BTW I also looking at a 1987 Marine Trader 34 DC with a Lehman sp 135 - It has 2500 hrs and there is bubbles in the fuel line - Do I have to replace from the Racor 500 to the engine ? Any Idea?

Thanks Again

George

Not necessarily, could just be a loose fitting somewhere. I've also replaced my fuel tanks and fuel lines from the tanks to the Racor.

Where is the boat located? that may help with a recommendation for someone to reseal your transmission. Will you R&R the transmission to bring it to a shop or are you looking for someone to do the whole job?

 

[Crux]

If it is a rear seal, you can change in boat if there is enough room to move shaft back to allow rear trans flange removal.
Check out these folks for parts.....and you might want to grab a manual off ebay..

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[gdinsdale2017]

Not necessarily, could just be a loose fitting somewhere. I've also replaced my fuel tanks and fuel lines from the tanks to the Racor.

Where is the boat located? that may help with a recommendation for someone to reseal your transmission. Will you R&R the transmission to bring it to a shop or are you looking for someone to do the whole job?

1- Marine Trader 34 DC 1987 is in East Greenwich RI boat with fuel line problem on the Lehman 135 hp
2 - Marine Trader 34 1976 Europa with upper deck shortened - looks like a sedan Paragon real seal replacement required. I was on the the 34 DC and looks like 12 inches available if you remove the shaft connection

My problem is budget - the Europa repair could be as much as $2k or more - It also has a couple of soft spots on fly bridge and bow. The rear of the fly bridge already was cut off due to moisture. The interior is almost perfect.

The 1987 34ft DC - has the fuel issue but is rough inside and out - when I saw the owner focused on all thing wrong "This needs fixing" example: Switch Panel needs rewiring - main broken other switches used for none different applications - stereo switch is being used for solar panel other electrical connection issues as well inverter, tachometer, other instruments not functioning. The interior has water damage, around the galley - stove, rear cabin ceiling needs replacing.

My feeling is the 1987 with the 135 hp 2500 hrs is the better boat but it need TCL I can send links if you want.

Your help is very much appreciated - I don't want to buy another's problem or at least not knowing what I'm getting into