So I am in the wrong place? And here I actually believed I had something of minor value to share while I learned more about recreational boating.
So I am in the wrong place? And here I actually believed I had something of minor value to share while I learned more about recreational boating.
Yes, keep in mind those at the AGLCA rendezvous are not at all the least knowledgeable ones.
''Only if you think that.
I know my years at sea on USCG cutters have little to do with what most here are interested in...the 3 trips to the Actic and one to Antarctica icebreaking have even less interest except for the occasional sea story.
The 15 years of assistance towing/salvage have quite a bit iin common with daily topics.
You just have to see it through the eyes of a 200 hr (or less) a year boater that never ventures forth in greater than 3 foot seas and 15 knots of wind and is anchored or moored in a marina every night. Sure there are variations on this theme, but really how many coastal cruisers vary much from those parameters regularly?
Wifey B: If you called me that I'd scold you too as would other lady captains I know and some ladies who were previously here. I would make it clear I'm a Captain, not an Admiral. What you and your wife agree to is fine with me. I see Admiral as a derogatory term implying issuing orders but doing no work and not holding the same skills or doing equal work to the Captain. Others may see it as a term of honor and endearment.
BandB Wifey:
What gets me is that an Admiral is a higher rank that the Captain. It's an honored position. The Admiral can manage a fleet, and can certainly act as Captain. Who the hell said an Admiral had no skills? How did the Admiral get there anyway?
Why is it derogatory??? Just don't understand that one.
However, I'd be glad to call you what ever I want. My co Captain, prefers to be an Admiral.
BandB
Never said they weren't. Most, at least, were willing to learn, and a bunch had a lot of knowledge.
Fish53, check out “ ignore list “ it’s a great TF feature to limit know it all opinions, it will make reading threads more injoyable unless you get off on debating lubbers.
Thanks that's a good idea, everyone one has good information or point of view to share but when it becomes a debate, or worse an argument I find it very discouraging.
Respectful debate is one of the main purposes of a forum like this and—in my view—one of TF’s strong points. People generally get pushback here when they feel like their posts ought to be chiseled in granite for the rest of the poor, unwashed boating world to accept without question. You obviously have a ton of knowledge so I hope you hang around.
Like this thread for example, I find it difficult to see a resistance to having radar when to me the array of benefits it provides when used to it's full potential for a relatively minor expense is understood. Some feel it isn't necessary for collision avoidance and others discount it's position determining and navigational abilities. Both to my mind are essential and easily realized when one is trained and practices it's use. But I failed to take the limited activities of some forum users into account when expressing my opinions, for that I am guilty and apologize.
On station in January 100 miles off Newfoundland 5 knots in a 5 mile circle for 30 days. Aboard a 250’ gearing class destroyer.
I like to believe I have a ton of knowledge but as the vast majority of my experience is commercial and in extreme conditions I have a hard time seeing things from a recreational viewpoint. I doubt many here have had to operate safely and successfully on the Grand Banks or Bering Sea in January without benefit of a handy place of refuge. Also aesthetics and comfort are a foreign concept to me being replaced by strength and seaworthiness. Like this thread for example, I find it difficult to see a resistance to having radar when to me the array of benefits it provides when used to it's full potential for a relatively minor expense is understood. Some feel it isn't necessary for collision avoidance and others discount it's position determining and navigational abilities. Both to my mind are essential and easily realized when one is trained and practices it's use. But I failed to take the limited activities of some forum users into account when expressing my opinions, for that I am guilty and apologize.
In the grand scheme of recreational boating... fit-out is sometimes merely an acknowledgement that the ol' wallet isn't always big enough to pay for all the stuff one would like to have.
That can often cause said boater to modify his or her style of boating -- just don't go out at night or in fog or whatever -- but of course that's a luxury (?) commercial guys don't have.
As pertains to this thread, I don't think that changes the basic value of radar (or whatever)... instead, radar (or whatever) can become one entry, of many, in a prioritized list of stuff... where the individual priorities are set only by the specific boater...
Or something like that.
No need to apologize.
-Chris
Good luck as you face a new exciting time of your life. Sad how it happens, adapt and enjoy.
Sorry for the unexpected life changes. Find ways to enrich others with your lifelong experience. It is certainly welcome here.My knee jerk reaction to the thought of foregoing radar for a dishwasher or new flybridge enclosure is no doubt inappropriate in the context of these discussions. Many folks just want to relax and enjoy their boats and I understand that but my reflex response gets the better of me. I should add that due to health issues at age sixty which forced me out as the USCG lifted my license leaving me unemployed, bored and mostly very much missing my previous life, which I'm having a hard time watching drift off into the past.
When searching for a 38' - 40' trawler-style boat to do the America's Great Loop on, how important is radar (assuming the boat has GPS ChartPlotter)?
Do any YF members who have done the Great Loop consider radar to be "required?" Or is it just a "nice to have" "optional" piece of navigation equipment?
Thanks,
Peace and blessings,
Larry Buchman
My knee jerk reaction to the thought of foregoing radar for a dishwasher or new flybridge enclosure is no doubt inappropriate in the context of these discussions. Many folks just want to relax and enjoy their boats and I understand that but my reflex response gets the better of me. I should add that due to health issues at age sixty which forced me out as the USCG lifted my license leaving me unemployed, bored and mostly very much missing my previous life, which I'm having a hard time watching drift off into the past.