pearlwindham
Veteran Member
Oh yeah
Just some plastic got messed up you can't regulate............"what If"
Just some plastic got messed up you can't regulate............"what If"
Post 124? shows subject vessel in drydock. Sure looks like one prop at that end, not two. Look like fixed pitch, too.
That particular class of ferry has 1 fixed pitch prop on each end.
Coffee stains on the carpet.
Per licensing pleasure boat owners and operators. Its a dumb idea. Just another way for whatever bureaucracy to make more money to spend somewhere else. Pretty soon they will have us getting licensed to cook a meal in our own home because it might be dangerous. LIFE is dangerous! Step outside your door and you can be killed by any number of ways and inside the home is perhaps more dangerous. How many ways can we think of to license folks to life their lives? Just stop it. Look at the big thread recently about the tug/barge that ran on the rocks in BC. Guess what? Operators were licensed! Ferry boat captain here. Uh Hello. Has a big fat probably 5000 ton license but still was in a totally avoidable collision. Maybe the guy on the little boat has a license, who knows? I used to be licensed, so what? A license does not a cautious mariner make. Stupid people have licenses too, I have known more than a few. So put me in the no corner to that idea! Just another loss of personal freedom in my view. YMMV.
So, I take it you're against requiring driver's licenses to drive cars as well?
Nope. Point is sort of like where does it stop? You care to address my other points besides throwing out the obvious gotcha question? And does having a drivers license to drive a car prevent accidents and crime and murder and suicide or anything else? Answer.... no.
If anyone was really interested in cutting down on auto accidents they would.. not license anyone under the age of 25 and after age 65 a yearly driving skills test would be taken. The youngest and the oldest are the reason for most accidents, but nothing will be done because its considered acceptable losses.
I was grandfathered due to age so didn't have to take any stupid test for go boating. You must have been close to the cut off point Dave. I think markpierce makes a good point. Everyone assume that everybody else is clueless and there will be fewer problems. I have nothing against education either, but mandatory licensing is nothing more than another tax for the state to collect and actually counterproductive. As mp also says licensing hasn't prevented probably millions of auto deaths at this point has it. Getting a piece of paper wont make you better at what you do unless you pay attention to what you are doing. The guy on that boat that bounced off the ferry was a boob! The ferry officer was not paying attention to what was going on around him and then didn't act quickly enough to avoid an easily avoidable collision. He too is a boob. It will cost him more than the other guy because he has more to lose. Lack of attention. Big license don't count for much if you aint paying attention.
We see how well thats working so far right?The main reason for issuing a license or safety certificate other than minimal training session to have something to take away to prevent bad behavior.
Sure people drive both boats and cars without licenses, but it's the evolution of penalties that ultimately works.
Without the initial certificate to attack, there is no real chain of punishment.
Gosh, LOL!Gosh, it seems you just made the argument for licensing.
Don't know what your PCOC is but in WA anyway, if over a certain age, I think its based on birth year, one can skip the nonsense. I am 63 and was born just before the cutoff whatever it is. Otherwise there is some plastic banana course one is supposed to take to become "proficient" at boating. LOL!I don't know how grandfathering works in the States. Usually in Canada our rules follow what you guys do, but here, there is no grandfathering on PCOC due to age. You can get your card if you have previously passed a CPS course, or equivalent. All you need to do is write to the CPS for their documentary proof, send that to the PCOC place and you are in. Otherwise, you need to take the test for PCOC, which is offered on line and is not difficult.
Don't know what your PCOC is but in WA anyway, if over a certain age, I think its based on birth year, one can skip the nonsense. I am 63 and was born just before the cutoff whatever it is. Otherwise there is some plastic banana course one is supposed to take to become "proficient" at boating. LOL!
i have found that most things based upon age do indeed have some basis in the birth year. At least that is the way things work down in this part of the country.
LOL!!!! I did mean of course that regardless my age at present, when that silly boating school thing was put in place, it was based on ones birth year. Good catch though!I have found that most things based upon age do indeed have some basis in the birth year. At least that is the way things work down in this part of the country.
Too bad the game industry does not make a boating simulator multi-player game with occasional passings, crossings, fog, high seas, and storms... With the technology I have seen, it should be able to be done, over the internet, all the way down to VHF communication too.