Mule
Guru
Considering OTDE........ Nice.... I realize that considering the source...thank you..... I take it with pride.
oK armchair "experts" what have I should have done. Step up. What would have done other what I have already outlined? I admitted that I should have short hauled, I pointed out that I started the turn while he was on a straight line course. What should I have done???
I turned to the left. He was going straight.... I DID not cut in front of him in any way.. .I got into a u turn lane, with bent rods
Operative term, "not being a fisherman". I, apparently assumed, with outriggers, he would have known. He did not.
Still waiting for a logical alternative answer different than what I did or admitted that I could have done...what I could have done, bear in mind I had NO obligation to do.
Were you displaying the appropriate "fishing day shapes".
I think the vindictive aspect bothers people. The German word "schadenfreude" means deriving pleasure from the misfortune of others. Understandably, there is no word for it in the English language.
You assumed? So you could see him approaching and made the turn based on assuming he was a fisherman and would have known you were trolling well behind at near surface levels?
No, the Searays you disparage are not fishermen either.
Nope. They would be 'not' appropriate. Trolling elicits no protection or special status under Colregs. Trawling on the other hand.....
Mule: From your explanation: you did a u turn in front of the guy. Your fishing gear did not have the time to get pulled behind you in time to be on your side of the channel. You are responsible for the gear not him. You sound as if you turned and met him on a port to port meeting. Fine. Trolling lines don't afford you fishing boat status. So your gear may have indeed fouled his lower unit. I wouldn't be proud of accomplishing this. Jmho.
Think of it this way. If you did this in front of the other guy and he was trolling also, who would get yelled at for fouling lines? The guy on the straight course? Or the guy who turned in front of?
Yeah, and that is BS. On a sailboat with 6 foot draft a power boat, anchored in the middle of the channel got pissed (shallow all around) when we all but hit his rub rail.
And just HOW is that? I hold NO animosity toward this guy. I spend a few dollars respooling my reel, so what!!! I am "entitled" to troll an inlet, not bothering anybody, with expectation of being left in peace.
Please explain ENTITLED???
Look, I feel for the guy. He will pay the price. Just WTF should I have done???
Oh please, oh wise one, Please give me guidance. As your humble servant, if you insist I will put all my boats on the hard. After all, being a taxpayer I have an entitled attitude therefore no rights according to you..
So please Mark-whatever, what would you have me do? I am awaiting your wise guidance so I can adjust my life accordingly.. Please help me. Do I need to mothball my Whaler and 38 foot Trawler because I have an "entitled" attitude?
How far do want to take this? My attitude is I want to live in reasonable peace W/O insensitive , unreasonable AH intrupting that peace. I try, very, very hard to do the same. I follow the rules, and it is unreasonable for me to expect others to do the same, or I am (labeled by you) as "entitled".
Please explain. Good luck with that.
We both know how they apply in these back Bay fishing situations.
"back bay"!? Hardly.
He was in a marked inlet that has a no wake zone. Not even remotely back bay fishing IMO.
Think this mule has been beat enough; time to let it go.
Ted
I need more data.
How much line did you have out? Surface trolling? Anyone minding the rods? Were the captain and crew facing forward? What were you fishing for out of FP? I'm a fisherman so I'm just asking.
Fort Pierce inlet is really wide...there is a north and south side. East gets you England, west gets you FL.
Montauk, in this case is a Boston Whaler 17.