• Trawler Forum Classified Posting Guidelines
    • We expect ads placed to be related to the topic of this forum.
    • Ads that are inactive for 180 days or longer may be moved to the Classified Archive and locked. Ads may be relisted if the item is still current. Alternatively, owners may contact a Moderator to reinstate an archived ad.
    • The Classified section is for advertising, members are asked to refrain from posting discussions to a Classified Ad. Please start a discussion thread or PM the owner for discussions.
    • Do not hijack another member's ad by posting unsolicited commentary. Example: if a member has posted an ad offering an anchor for sale, don't add a post to his thread stating that you have an anchor you'd like to get rid of also. Posts deemed as unsolicited commentary may be removed.
    • For your own security, do NOT include your e-mail or phone number in your ad. Instead request that interested parties contact you via PM (private message) to provide owners contact info.
    • Brokers, Dealers, or those with a commercial interest in a sale are prohibited from posting in Classifieds.
    • Only Trawler Forum Commercial Members may post ads in the Commercial section. You must be a designated Commercial Member to start threads in this section of the forum. (Contact a moderator if you have questions about this)
    • Don't post links to commercial sites where you are also offering the boat, such as eBay, Craigslist or Yachtworld, etc. unless it contains a more in-depth description, additional information or pictures.
    • Place only one ad per item (you may repost only when your ad has expired and been removed).
    For Sale ads MUST include:
    • Asking price
    • Location
    • A Basic Description
    • Clear statement whether you are the owner or non-owner (posting for friend, relative, or acquaintance)
    • Don't forget to select: FOR SALE, WANTED or FREE in the Title block.
    All ads should also include ALL the following:
    • Pertinent maintenance and condition information
    • Exterior picture or pictures
    • Interior picture or pictures (boats)
    For maximum impact & exposure, it is suggested the Ad Title include: Year, Manufacturer, Model, Length, Price, and Location or at the very top of the ad body. When your item has sold or the ad is no longer relevant: Please post a Reply to the ad that the item is SOLD or click "Report Post" on post 1 of the thread to ask a moderator to archive the ad. Ads may be moved or removed by our staff at any time for any reason. All ads must comply with site rules. Thanks for your cooperation.
  • Avoid Scams.

    Our classifieds are free and anyone registered here is welcome to post an ad.
    Be aware that there are unscrupulous folks out there. Avoid any interaction that seems odd to you or �feels� wrong. Inquiries from unknown buyers, buyers �agents� and other non-traditional approaches should be treated with extreme caution.

    Beware of unsolicited contacts offering to put you in touch with someone else who is buying or selling via e-mail or text.

    Do not post your e-mail address or phone number in a classifieds ad.

    Hints that you may be dealing with a Scammer:
    • Seller or Buyer approaches you via a direct email or PM and then steers you to an off-site communication method (text or email).
    • No posts or very few forum posts.
    • Recent forum membership
    • Insists on conducting negotiations via email or text rather than PM
    • Requires payment via Bank Transfer, BitCoin/CryptoCurrency, WesternUnion or other unsecured method.
    • Buyer or Seller suggests Paypal "Friends and Family" payment. Paypal is a good way to arrange payment but an invoice for goods and services should be used rather than "Friends and Family". "Friends and Family" avoids fees BUT there is no recourse if the transaction runs aground. Friends and Family is for gifts only. There is no protection for Friends and Family transactions, so never ever use it to buy something.
    • Declines to allow viewing the item before proceeding with the transaction.

2024 Helmsman 38 Sedan - Chesapeake Bay MD - $699,000

The friendliest place on the web for anyone who enjoys boating.
If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.

Nick14

Guru
Joined
May 2, 2013
Messages
774
Location
USA
Vessel Name
Culmination
Vessel Make
Helmsman 38 Sedan
IMG_6956.JPG
IMG_6952.JPG
IMG_6346.JPG
IMG_6347.JPG
IMG_6328.JPG
IMG_6330.JPG
IMG_6322.JPG
IMG_6329.JPG
IMG_6960.JPG
IMG_6352.JPG
2024 Helmsman 38 Sedan
550 hp engine - WOT speed 17-18 knots

Located on Kent Island, Maryland, Chesapeake Bay

Unfortunately, due to the realities of aging and health issues that have developed since I ordered the boat, my long distance cruising days are now behind me. Reluctantly my new 2024 Helmsman 38 Sedan (the first one of this model) is for sale. This is the April calendar boat in the calendar created by Jill (Tom-Jill-Lilly).

This is the Sedan, distinguished from the 38E Pilothouse in having wide, covered, protected full walk-around side decks. The decks are protected by deep bulwarks and make access to any part of the boat safe and easy in all conditions. Placing fenders, docking, fending off, going through locks, are a breeze with every inch of the boat easily and safely accessible.

The Sedan also has a large, spacious, protected cockpit, fully covered by the hardtop, with plenty of room for several chairs and a table.

The forward stateroom, being a single cabin model, is very spacious. Plenty of walk-around space.

Separate head and shower compartments. The shower is particularly spacious, plenty of room for two people (if you're into that).

The flybridge/upper deck is massive, all one flat, continuous level. Plenty of space for up to a 13 ft dinghy and lots of seating. The flybridge even had protected side decks around it.

The engine room/machinery space is cavernous. Everything is easily accessible.

Features and Options

Cummins QSB6.7-550 hp engine – 17-18 knots top end speed. Ability to cruise at 7-8 knots or 14-15 knots.
Interior layout with two opposed settees in the salon, makes for a spacious, open, airy cabin
Special order extended helm seat, 36" wide, room for two people to comfortably sit
Special order additional drawers and cabinet in salon
Additional overhead dishware storage cabinet in galley
Bennett trim tabs
Northern Lights 6 kw generator
Reverse-cycle heat / air-conditioning
Nick Jackson 650# LP electric davit crane
Single Stateroom layout, with separate head and shower compartments
Pastel Blue Colored hull
Side entry doors at both side decks
Retractable radar Arch
Two pedestal seats at flybridge helm
L-shaped flybridge settee with cocktail table
Custom flybridge cabinet, with refrigerator
Courtesy lighting on flybridge
Convection oven / microwave
Induction cooktop
Caesarstone galley countertops, Champagne Limestone
Reverso oil change system
Windshield washer system
Hinged lifters on master berth, for storage access
Swim platform safety handrails (“Staples”, removable)
Additional optional cleats on transom
200’ anchor chain with 200’ spliced line
Additional house bank AGM battery (3) – total of six AGM batteries
Sunbrella bimini top; Stamoid covers for flybridge helm and seating
8 Fenders
Recently waxed

Electronics

Garmin 8617 (2) 17” MFDs (35% larger screen area than the 8616 unit)
Garmin Fantom 24” radar
Garmin GHC50 autopilot
ICOM M510 VHF
ICOM VHF Command Mic
Hailer / foghorn
Garmin AIS800

There are about 25 hours on the engine. This is an opportunity to save about $100,000 over a comparably equipped new boat, and save over a year of waiting. Dialed in, debugged, improved, commissioned, go cruising immediately.

I own the boat. Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions.

Link to the yachtworld listing with more information and photos is:

 
Last edited:
IMG_6968.JPG
IMG_6321.JPG
IMG_6320.JPG
IMG_6963.JPG
IMG_6354.JPG
IMG_6957.JPG
IMG_6378.jpeg
A few additional photos -
 
Nick14: Sorry to read about the sale of your beautiful H38 sedan. Keep well.
 
Nick14: Sorry to read about the sale of your beautiful H38 sedan. Keep well.

Thank you. The old saying is true, 'when you have your health, you have everything.' Unfortunately the opposite is also true.
 
Just a thought...I guess you have already contacted Scott Helker and Greg Messerle to assist with the sale.
 
Beautiful boat, and I’m sorry to hear that you won’t be using it Nick. I followed your build with interest.

Are the sofa’s long enough or wide enough for an infrequent guest to sleep on?
 
Beautiful boat, and I’m sorry to hear that you won’t be using it Nick. I followed your build with interest.

Are the sofa’s long enough or wide enough for an infrequent guest to sleep on?

Thanks Richard. The one thing no one can run away from is aging and health issues.

Yes, both settees are 6'6" long and long enough to sleep on. The port (L-shaped) settee is convertible into a double berth. The table lowers, and there are cushions to go on top of it to make a double berth.

The starboard settee is not convertible, but one person could sleep on it.
 
Nick

Sorry to see your need to sell.

But she’s a great boat, and best wishes for a speedy favorable sale.
 
Nick

Sorry to see your need to sell.

But she’s a great boat, and best wishes for a speedy favorable sale.

Thank you Win.
 
FYI, the boat is planned to be at the TrawlerFest in Baltimore, September 25-28.
 
And Sorry to hear about your health. I'm 56 and looking to buy my first trawler but move the decimal point one place and that's my budget.
 
IF I were in the market, I would buy that before I bought a new one, even if prices were equal. At the discount you are offering, I am surprised it hasn't been snapped up. Good luck.
 
IF I were in the market, I would buy that before I bought a new one, even if prices were equal. At the discount you are offering, I am surprised it hasn't been snapped up. Good luck.

Thank you :Thanx:!

Hundreds of hours of time and tens of thousands of dollars have been invested in debugging and enhancing the boat since I took delivery. The only thing missing has been my ability to use it :(.
 
Given the only way to the flybridge is through the hatch, what beam of tender can be carried without obstructing. And the David can pivot to that? What were you planning to use?

I’m surprised I don’t see the newer Helmsman builds with lithium and solar.
 
Given the only way to the flybridge is through the hatch, what beam of tender can be carried without obstructing. And the David can pivot to that? What were you planning to use?

I’m surprised I don’t see the newer Helmsman builds with lithium and solar.

The hatch to the flybridge is at the far starboard side of the upper deck. I once measured the unobstructed and open size of the upper deck (aft of the flybridge seating) to clear the hatchway, don't remember what it was but I recall the open space net of the hatchway was about 8 ft x 15 ft?

The davit is electric, telescopes for length and rotates 360 deg. I suppose the footprint to comfortably fit a dinghy is probably about 7 ft x 14 ft? I was planning to use a Whaly 370 and remember measuring at the time showed it would comfortably fit.

I think at least one recent Helmsman owner spec'd lithium and solar and opted not to have a generator. For my own personal preferences, I don't think lithium battery technology is quite sufficiently reliable and robust for marine applications to rely on as a sole electric power source in the absence of a generator. Your mileage may vary.
 
As readers try to parse the various pros and cons of the sedan model vs pilot house model, this discussion about dingy size highlights a difference that may escape attention. On the sedan the flybridge seating and controls are set materially farther forward than on the pilot house. Therefore a dingy can be (must be) set running fore and aft on the port side. But allows for a longer model.

That can be of benefit to some. It would raise weight distribution questions.

For those that want a customization that includes a grill or fridge up top, the extra room might also be welcomed.

There are obviously other differences since simplistically this is a stretched 37 sedan. Shoppers would need to spend time aboard both to grasp them. Helmsman will have Nicks sedan and Greg’s pilothouse side by side at Trawlerfest Baltimore next month. There will be no better time to compare.
 
By the way Nick, I saw your boat in your marina last week. A seriously nice boat.

For those that value side decks above the interior space a pilothouse model brings, I can’t think of a better boat currently produced in this size range. It basically has a market all its own.

The 38e has evolved from refinement and customer ideas and customization. It will be interesting to see how this model evolves over time as well.
 
Nick, having followed the build process this is not the ending I was wanting to hear. Thanks for reminding us that to carpe diem.
Nice boat.
 
Thanks for reminding us that to carpe diem.
Nice boat.

Thank you :Thanx:

The only guarantee in life is change. Invariably in ways and at times we don't expect. Which is why it is indeed important to live mindfully, appreciate each moment and experience. We really don't know how long they will last.
 
I completely understand your reasoning. I am at the same place and have put our Formula up for sale. If it sells fine, we will buy a center console. If it doesn’t sell then we will keep it and just do local cruising. Keep well.
 
I completely understand your reasoning. I am at the same place and have put our Formula up for sale. If it sells fine, we will buy a center console. If it doesn’t sell then we will keep it and just do local cruising. Keep well.

Thank you. Sounds like we’re in similar places. Likewise, if my boat sells, fine. If it doesn’t, while it might be silly to use a 38 ft Trawler for occasional short day trips puttering around Narragansett Bay, that’ll be great too.
 
Nick, I'll pray for a miracle. I was not going to TF even though very close. I may go just to see your boat, Wowsers !
 
Nick, I'll pray for a miracle. I was not going to TF even though very close. I may go just to see your boat, Wowsers !

:LOL: :ROFLMAO: What kind of miracle are you going to pray for?
 
As readers try to parse the various pros and cons of the sedan model vs pilot house model, this discussion about dingy size highlights a difference that may escape attention. On the sedan the flybridge seating and controls are set materially farther forward than on the pilot house. Therefore a dingy can be (must be) set running fore and aft on the port side. But allows for a longer model.

That can be of benefit to some. It would raise weight distribution questions.
Interesting trade offs.

I can see the weight distribution but also think that occurs too with the motor when the tender goes across the beam too, given the weight of the motor.

I think Nick’s boat looks spectacular. What a great set up for the Loop too. And all those locks.
 
Interesting trade offs.

I can see the weight distribution but also think that occurs too with the motor when the tender goes across the beam too, given the weight of the motor.

I think Nick’s boat looks spectacular. What a great set up for the Loop too. And all those locks.

:Thanx:
 
Back
Top Bottom